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    • fireodoF
      fireodo @johnpoz
      last edited by

      @johnpoz said in ARP reports bogons:

      changed ;)

      Thank you 🤗

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        deanfourie @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz Resolver logs attached. I know that I am updating DNS dynamically with DHCP.

        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.131072 0.262144 20
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.262144 0.524288 8
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.524288 1.000000 2
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 2: 98 queries, 51 answers from cache, 47 recursions, 0 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 2: requestlist max 1 avg 0.12766 exceeded 0 jostled 0
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: average recursion processing time 0.180464 sec
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: histogram of recursion processing times
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: [25%]=0.0770048 median[50%]=0.15401 [75%]=0.231014
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: lower(secs) upper(secs) recursions
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.000256 0.000512 1
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.008192 0.016384 1
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.016384 0.032768 4
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.032768 0.065536 4
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.065536 0.131072 10
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.131072 0.262144 20
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.262144 0.524288 6
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.524288 1.000000 1
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 3: 127 queries, 66 answers from cache, 61 recursions, 0 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 3: requestlist max 2 avg 0.131148 exceeded 0 jostled 0
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: average recursion processing time 0.182965 sec
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: histogram of recursion processing times
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: [25%]=0.0671744 median[50%]=0.159908 [75%]=0.239862
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: lower(secs) upper(secs) recursions
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.016384 0.032768 6
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.032768 0.065536 9
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.065536 0.131072 10
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.131072 0.262144 25
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.262144 0.524288 6
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.524288 1.000000 5
        Oct 5 09:46:43	unbound	6151	[6151:0] notice: Restart of unbound 1.15.0.
        Oct 5 09:46:47	unbound	6151	[6151:0] notice: init module 0: iterator
        Oct 5 09:46:47	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: service stopped (unbound 1.15.0).
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 0: 6 queries, 4 answers from cache, 2 recursions, 0 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 0: requestlist max 0 avg 0 exceeded 0 jostled 0
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: average recursion processing time 0.134253 sec
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: histogram of recursion processing times
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: [25%]=0 median[50%]=0 [75%]=0
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: lower(secs) upper(secs) recursions
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.065536 0.131072 1
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.131072 0.262144 1
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 1: 12 queries, 3 answers from cache, 9 recursions, 0 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 1: requestlist max 1 avg 0.333333 exceeded 0 jostled 0
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: average recursion processing time 0.136354 sec
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: histogram of recursion processing times
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: [25%]=0.0709973 median[50%]=0.120149 [75%]=0.24576
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: lower(secs) upper(secs) recursions
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.000512 0.001024 1
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.032768 0.065536 1
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.065536 0.131072 3
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.131072 0.262144 2
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.262144 0.524288 2
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 2: 5 queries, 1 answers from cache, 4 recursions, 0 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 2: requestlist max 0 avg 0 exceeded 0 jostled 0
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: average recursion processing time 0.227218 sec
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: histogram of recursion processing times
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: [25%]=0.065536 median[50%]=0.098304 [75%]=0.131072
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: lower(secs) upper(secs) recursions
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.032768 0.065536 1
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.065536 0.131072 2
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.524288 1.000000 1
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 3: 12 queries, 5 answers from cache, 7 recursions, 0 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 3: requestlist max 1 avg 0.142857 exceeded 0 jostled 0
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: average recursion processing time 0.233964 sec
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: histogram of recursion processing times
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: [25%]=0.08192 median[50%]=0.120149 [75%]=0.212992
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: lower(secs) upper(secs) recursions
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.032768 0.065536 1
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.065536 0.131072 3
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.131072 0.262144 2
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.524288 1.000000 1
        Oct 5 09:48:32	unbound	6151	[6151:0] notice: Restart of unbound 1.15.0.
        Oct 5 09:48:36	unbound	6151	[6151:0] notice: init module 0: iterator
        Oct 5 09:48:36	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: start of service (unbound 1.15.0).
        Oct 5 10:27:24	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: service stopped (unbound 1.15.0).
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 0: 146 queries, 50 answers from cache, 96 recursions, 0 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 0: requestlist max 2 avg 0.114583 exceeded 0 jostled 0
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: average recursion processing time 0.260150 sec
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: histogram of recursion processing times
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: [25%]=0.0786432 median[50%]=0.180224 [75%]=0.323825
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: lower(secs) upper(secs) recursions
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.000256 0.000512 1
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.016384 0.032768 8
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.032768 0.065536 12
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.065536 0.131072 15
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.131072 0.262144 32
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.262144 0.524288 17
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 0.524288 1.000000 7
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 1.000000 2.000000 3
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: 2.000000 4.000000 1
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 1: 236 queries, 102 answers from cache, 134 recursions, 0 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: server stats for thread 1: requestlist max 2 avg 0.11194 exceeded 0 jostled 0
        Oct 5 10:27:25	unbound	6151	[6151:0] info: average recursion processing time 0.221942 sec
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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @deanfourie
          last edited by

          @deanfourie so that is not very long, you have 2 restarts of unbound in what 2 minutes, and a total time of 41 minutes.

          And looks like you just cut off the 3rd restart, since I see a stop.

          So 3 restarts in 40 minutes? That doesn't bode well for any sort of cache, since its flushed when it restarts. And while its restarting any dns query would fail, etc.

          Mine on the other hand, which the last restart was me doing on purpose because adding a host override for a thread here has been up for 36 hours.

          [22.05-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf status
          version: 1.15.0
          verbosity: 1
          threads: 4
          modules: 2 [ validator iterator ]
          uptime: 130866 seconds
          options: control(ssl)
          unbound (pid 77646) is running...
          

          130k seconds is like 36+ hours.

          I would turn off registration of your dhcp leases, and see if your internet issues go away.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Not a huge number of restarts there. Was there an incident of this sort during that period?

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              deanfourie @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10 no this seems to be the norm.

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                deanfourie @stephenw10
                last edited by deanfourie

                @stephenw10 so can anyone explain these then? Why is arpwatch reporting bogons on these macs?

                I see now also that there are some autoconfiguration ips in there too.

                Oct 5 13:13:53	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 13:13:54	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 13:13:55	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 14:00:00	php	71752	[pfBlockerNG] Starting cron process.
                Oct 5 14:00:06	php	71752	[pfBlockerNG] No changes to Firewall rules, skipping Filter Reload
                Oct 5 14:46:03	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 14:46:04	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 14:46:05	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 14:46:06	arpwatch	13361	bogon 169.254.179.66 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 14:46:06	arpwatch	13361	bogon 169.254.179.66 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 14:46:07	arpwatch	13361	bogon 169.254.179.66 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 15:00:00	php	78045	[pfBlockerNG] Starting cron process.
                Oct 5 15:00:07	php	78045	[pfBlockerNG] No changes to Firewall rules, skipping Filter Reload
                Oct 5 15:11:21	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 15:11:21	arpwatch	13361	bogon 169.254.179.66 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 15:11:21	arpwatch	13361	bogon 169.254.179.66 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 15:11:22	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 15:11:23	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 15:11:24	arpwatch	13361	bogon 169.254.179.66 c0:33:5e:31:9e:87
                Oct 5 15:37:27	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c4:9d:ed:b2:2e:ea
                Oct 5 15:37:28	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c4:9d:ed:b2:2e:ea
                Oct 5 15:37:29	arpwatch	13361	bogon 0.0.0.0 c4:9d:ed:b2:2e:ea
                
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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  That is almost certainly a host running a dhcp client. It's expected to use 0.0.0.0 as the source IP at least initially.
                  The interesting thing there is that it appears to fail to find a dhcp server because it default to a 169.254 APIPA address that Windows self assigns itself when it can't.

                  Are you using pfSense for DHCP? Do you see anything in the dhcp log at those times from that MAC?

                  Steve

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                    deanfourie @stephenw10
                    last edited by deanfourie

                    @stephenw10 yea I've checked that.

                    I see nothing in the pfSense DHCP logs (yes using pfSense to hand out DHCP).

                    I am also using a wifi ap running OpenWRT broadcasting 2 SSIDs on 2 separate VLANs, the wifi AP has a DHCP server on the one VLAN which is not accessible by the LAN, and no DHCP server on the LAN VLAN as this is handled by pfSense so I doubt this is it.

                    It was hapenning again last night.

                    Should I not see DHCP offers in a capture if it was a rogue DHCP server?

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                      deanfourie @deanfourie
                      last edited by

                      @deanfourie that also reflects the behavior as during the time it goes down, if I try ipconfig /renew it fails to contact a dhcp server

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @deanfourie
                        last edited by

                        @deanfourie said in ARP reports bogons:

                        if I try ipconfig /renew it fails to contact a dhcp server

                        Well yeah if your devices loose their ips nothing is going to work. And as they get closer to their lease expire they will start screaming for renew.. faster and faster.. Until it finally expires, then they will send out a discover..

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          You wouldn't see offers in pfSense because they are sent to the clients dircetly.

                          However you would expect to see something on the client. Even if it was from the wrong server.

                          This starts to feel more like something blocking DHCP or possibly blocking broadcasts. Though the initial dhcp renewal would not be broadcast.

                          Are you only seeing this on the subnet accessed via the OpenWRT AP?

                          Do you have any additional packages running on the AP?

                          Check the logs in OpenWRT for anything odd at that time.

                          Steve

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                            deanfourie @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 In my logs I am seeing a LOT of DHCP traffic.

                            I am seeing a lot of DHCP ACS's and REQUESTS, but very few OFFERS. Normal?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Mostly you see renewals and acks. You only see discover/offers for new clients that don't yet have an IP.

                              So, nothing unusual in the AP?

                              Are you only seeing this in clients using that AP?

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                                deanfourie @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10 I will check AP tonight,

                                But I'm also getting random uncommanded reboots during the night, 2 last night.

                                pfSense just rebooting randomly.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Huh, well seems like something more significant.

                                  Do you see a crash report when it boots back?

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                                    deanfourie @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 I do not, would I see this in the logs directly?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      No, if it panicked and crashed you would normally see a crash report as an alert on the dash when you log back in after it reboots.

                                      If if just resets instantly with no kernel panic that's more likely to be a hardware issue.

                                      Do you see anything at the console when that happens?

                                      Steve

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                                        deanfourie @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10 This is the same time pfSense VM went down, so I guess the server rebooted, not pfSense.

                                        The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00020001 (0x0000000000000011, 0x00000000002182ae, 0x0000000000001005, 0x0000010000003b80). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 3fc6cc5c-a540-425f-9522-d0f8dfb9b40a.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Ah, it's a VM. Then yes, almost certainly. Is that what's causing every pfSense reboot? That's pretty bad if so.

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                                            deanfourie @stephenw10
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10 ok checked the AP, there is definitely no leases being handed out on that network. Everything seems to be working fine on the AP.

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