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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Seeing errors like that is not necessarily an issue. It depends what sort of errors those are. There is probably more detail in the MAC stats. And the actual percentage of error packets is low.

      However seeing collisions is odd. You should never see collisions on a switched segment.

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        tomasenskede @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 said in pfSense 2.7.0 stop working now and then:

        Seeing errors like that is not necessarily an issue. It depends what sort of errors those are. There is probably more detail in the MAC stats. And the actual percentage of error packets is low.

        However seeing collisions is odd. You should never see collisions on a switched segment.

        What is the underlying reason for collisions? I only have two devices, the fiber/Ethernet converter and the pfSense. Is it possible that the media converter is causing the collisions, or could the issue originate from the ISP's end?

        Tomas

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          As far as I know media converters like that are only media converters. They have no switching. So the segment over which collisions might occur is between the pfSense NIC and whatever is at the remote end of the fibre. It may not be a problem. It's still unexpected though.

          Can you swap the WAN to a different NIC in pfSense?

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            tomasenskede @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 said in pfSense 2.7.0 stop working now and then:

            As far as I know media converters like that are only media converters. They have no switching. So the segment over which collisions might occur is between the pfSense NIC and whatever is at the remote end of the fibre. It may not be a problem. It's still unexpected though.

            Can you swap the WAN to a different NIC in pfSense?

            Certainly, but in that case, I'll receive a new MAC address that will require updating with the ISP... but I'm willing to give it a try if it's worth it.

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            Should I use a crossover cable between the media converter and the NIC of the pfSense? Currently, I am using a Cat 6 patch cable.

            My converter converts 10 Gbps SFP to 2.5 Gbps Ethernet… can the lower speed of the inbound traffic cause the collision we see?

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              You shouldn't need a cross-over cable. It shouldn't matter. Anything using 1G Ethernet or higher should be auto-MDI/X. If it did require it it would be failing completely.

              Is the media-converter actually linked at 10G on the fiber side? If it has to buffer the traffic between 10G and 2.5G it could be causing problems.

              You can spoof the MAC address on the WAN interface to match whatever the ISP has registered. I would definitely try swapping the WAN NICs though, however you achieve that.

              The actual amount of errors and collisions shown is pretty small. I wouldn't expect that alone to cause the WAN to stop passing traffic entirely.

              Steve

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                tomasenskede @stephenw10
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                Only on incoming data:
                Collision: 0,5%
                Errors: 0,45%

                outgoing data is without error/collision...

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Is igc0 the same NIC?

                  You can looks at the type of errors those are in the sysctl macstats: sysctl dev.igc.0

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                    tomasenskede @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10
                    pfSense - Netgate Device ID: febe9d4d7e04acf75053

                    *** Welcome to pfSense 2.7.0-RELEASE (amd64) on pfSense ***

                    WAN (wan) -> igc0 -> v4/DHCP4: 158.174.25.147/26
                    LAN (lan) -> igc1 -> v4: 192.168.1.1/24

                    1. Logout (SSH only) 9) pfTop
                    2. Assign Interfaces 10) Filter Logs
                    3. Set interface(s) IP address 11) Restart webConfigurator
                    4. Reset webConfigurator password 12) PHP shell + pfSense tools
                    5. Reset to factory defaults 13) Update from console
                    6. Reboot system 14) Disable Secure Shell (sshd)
                    7. Halt system 15) Restore recent configuration
                    8. Ping host 16) Restart PHP-FPM
                    9. Shell

                    Enter an option: 8

                    [2.7.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.dmz.se]/root: sysctl dev.igc.0
                    dev.igc.0.wake: 0
                    dev.igc.0.interrupts.rx_desc_min_thresh: 0
                    dev.igc.0.interrupts.asserts: 7607622
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tso_txd: 0
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_1024_1522: 2502085
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_512_1023: 554961
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_256_511: 467355
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_128_255: 505314
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_65_127: 1137035
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.tx_frames_64: 941462
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_txd: 4
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.bcast_pkts_txd: 6
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_pkts_txd: 6108212
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.total_pkts_txd: 6108212
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_octets_txd: 4432696875
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.good_octets_recvd: 11661212584
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_1024_1522: 7380592
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_512_1023: 755436
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_256_511: 577979
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_128_255: 473883
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_65_127: 762285
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.rx_frames_64: 802790
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.mcast_pkts_recvd: 11816
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                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xoff_txd: 0
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                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.xon_txd: 0
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                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.alignment_errs: 0
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                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_undersize: 0
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                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.defer_count: 0
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.sequence_errors: 0
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.symbol_errors: 0
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.collision_count: 52676
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                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.multiple_coll: 0
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.single_coll: 0
                    dev.igc.0.mac_stats.excess_coll: 0
                    dev.igc.0.queue_rx_3.rx_irq: 0
                    dev.igc.0.queue_rx_3.rxd_tail: 147
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                    dev.igc.0.queue_rx_1.rxd_tail: 380
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                    dev.igc.0.queue_rx_0.rx_irq: 0
                    dev.igc.0.queue_rx_0.rxd_tail: 388
                    dev.igc.0.queue_rx_0.rxd_head: 389
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_3.tx_irq: 0
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_3.txd_tail: 319
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_3.txd_head: 319
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_2.tx_irq: 0
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_2.txd_tail: 206
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_2.txd_head: 206
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_1.tx_irq: 0
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_1.txd_tail: 192
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_1.txd_head: 192
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_0.tx_irq: 0
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_0.txd_tail: 731
                    dev.igc.0.queue_tx_0.txd_head: 731
                    dev.igc.0.fc_low_water: 32752
                    dev.igc.0.fc_high_water: 32768
                    dev.igc.0.rx_control: 71335938
                    dev.igc.0.device_control: 1075578433
                    dev.igc.0.watchdog_timeouts: 0
                    dev.igc.0.rx_overruns: 0
                    dev.igc.0.link_irq: 2
                    dev.igc.0.dropped: 0
                    dev.igc.0.eee_control: 1
                    dev.igc.0.itr: 488
                    dev.igc.0.tx_abs_int_delay: 66
                    dev.igc.0.rx_abs_int_delay: 66
                    dev.igc.0.tx_int_delay: 66
                    dev.igc.0.rx_int_delay: 0
                    dev.igc.0.rs_dump: 0
                    dev.igc.0.reg_dump: General Registers
                    CTRL 401c0641
                    STATUS 40780683
                    CTRL_EXIT 10000040

                    Interrupt Registers
                    ICR 00000000

                    RX Registers
                    RCTL 04408002
                    RDLEN 00004000
                    RDH 00000185
                    RDT 00000184
                    RXDCTL 02040808
                    RDBAL 058d8000
                    RDBAH 00000000

                    TX Registers
                    TCTL a503f0fa
                    TDBAL 0589a000
                    TDBAH 00000000
                    TDLEN 00004000
                    TDH 000002db
                    TDT 000002db
                    TXDCTL 0201011f
                    TDFH 00000000
                    TDFT 00000000
                    TDFHS 00000000
                    TDFPC 00000000

                    dev.igc.0.fc: 3
                    dev.igc.0.debug: -1
                    dev.igc.0.nvm: -1
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq3.rxq_fl0.buf_size: 2048
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq3.rxq_fl0.credits: 1023
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq3.rxq_fl0.cidx: 148
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq3.rxq_fl0.pidx: 147
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq3.cpu: 3
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq2.rxq_fl0.buf_size: 2048
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq2.rxq_fl0.credits: 1023
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq2.rxq_fl0.cidx: 48
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq2.rxq_fl0.pidx: 47
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq2.cpu: 2
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                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq1.rxq_fl0.credits: 1023
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq1.rxq_fl0.cidx: 381
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq1.rxq_fl0.pidx: 380
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq1.cpu: 1
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq0.rxq_fl0.buf_size: 2048
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq0.rxq_fl0.credits: 1023
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq0.rxq_fl0.cidx: 389
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq0.rxq_fl0.pidx: 388
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.rxq0.cpu: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.r_abdications: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.r_restarts: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.r_stalls: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.r_starts: 1379149
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                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.ring_state: pidx_head: 0902 pidx_tail: 0902 cidx: 0902 state: IDLE
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                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.txq_processed: 1387838
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.txq_in_use: 41
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.txq_cidx_processed: 318
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.txq_cidx: 278
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.txq_pidx: 319
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.no_tx_dma_setup: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.txd_encap_efbig: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.tx_map_failed: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.no_desc_avail: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.mbuf_defrag_failed: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.m_pullups: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.mbuf_defrag: 0
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq3.cpu: 3
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                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq2.r_starts: 1369418
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                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq2.r_enqueues: 1370001
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq2.ring_state: pidx_head: 1937 pidx_tail: 1937 cidx: 1937 state: IDLE
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq2.txq_cleaned: 1378468
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                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq2.txq_in_use: 42
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq2.txq_cidx_processed: 204
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq2.txq_cidx: 164
                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq2.txq_pidx: 206
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                    dev.igc.0.iflib.txq1.txq_in_use: 41
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                    dev.igc.0.%parent: pci1
                    dev.igc.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x8086 device=0x15f3 subvendor=0x8086 subdevice=0x0000 class=0x020000
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                    dev.igc.0.%driver: igc
                    dev.igc.0.%desc: Intel(R) Ethernet Controller I225-V
                    [2.7.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.dmz.se]/root:

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      So it looks like CRC errors:

                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.crc_errs: 52083
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_errs: 0
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_jabber: 175
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_oversize: 0
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_fragmented: 418
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_undersize: 0
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.recv_no_buff: 0
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.missed_packets: 0
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.defer_count: 0
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.sequence_errors: 0
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.symbol_errors: 0
                      dev.igc.0.mac_stats.collision_count: 52676
                      

                      Try disabling checksum hardware offloading in System > Advanced > Networking. You will need to reboot to apply that.

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                        tomasenskede @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10

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                          tomasenskede @tomasenskede
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                          @tomasenskede

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                          Looks promising!

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                          no...

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                          still errors and collisions... should I enable h/w CRC again?

                          My current settings;
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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Since it made no difference it likely doesn't matter. I would try swapping the NICs next. If it follows that then it's probably real incoming errors. I'd probably look at swapping out the media converter in that case though that might not be practical.

                            However I still don't think those errors/collisions would cause the traffic to stop entirely. At most those are symptoms of some other failure.

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                              tomasenskede @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 said in pfSense 2.7.0 stop working now and then:

                              Since it made no difference it likely doesn't matter. I would try swapping the NICs next. If it follows that then it's probably real incoming errors. I'd probably look at swapping out the media converter in that case though that might not be practical.

                              However I still don't think those errors/collisions would cause the traffic to stop entirely. At most those are symptoms of some other failure.

                              I have contacted Digitus and asked them about issue, let see if they have to say about it.

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                                tomasenskede
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                                Now I have a 2.5 Gbps switch on the LAN side, and there are no errors reported on that side. Therefore, the issue must be on the WAN side, and it appears to be related to the Digitus media converter, the only device connected in that segment. :(

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Looks like you're still using the same NIC for the WAN though. I would try swapping the NIC assignments to be sure it's not a bad NIC.

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                                    tomasenskede @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 said in pfSense 2.7.0 stop working now and then:

                                    Looks like you're still using the same NIC for the WAN though. I would try swapping the NIC assignments to be sure it's not a bad NIC.

                                    Yes, i haven't change the NIC… how can I change NIC and keep the MAC-address?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      You could spoof the MAC onto the other NIC. That should be fine since it's in a different l2 segment.

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                                        tomasenskede @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 said in pfSense 2.7.0 stop working now and then:

                                        You could spoof the MAC onto the other NIC. That should be fine since it's in a different l2 segment.

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                                        same with another NIC... so then it must be the media converter... or?

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                                          Look at the error rate though. It's far far lower on igc3.

                                          Did it still fail to pass traffic when using igc3 as WAN?

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                                            Root cause identified and resolved!

                                            The issue was related to the Digitus Media converter, which didn't support mixed speeds. I had a 10 Gbps connection on one side and a 2.5 Gbps connection on the WAN side of pfSense.

                                            However, after replacing the media converter with a switch that had both 10 Gbps and 2.5 Gbps ports, the collisions and errors ceased.

                                            Case closed, and now my WAN data flows without any errors!

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