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    Stef93 @Cabledude
    last edited by Stef93 Nov 2, 2023, 12:41 PM Nov 2, 2023, 12:39 PM

    @Cabledude
    I'm not @JonathanLee
    But I have and actively use Netgate 6100 Base (by the way, I bought an intel optane 64gb, it’s already waiting for me, I need to install it)
    I can confirm that it takes a long time to load)
    upd. there are a lot of widgets, a lot of things are spinning

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      Cabledude @Stef93
      last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:41 PM

      Thank you @Stef93. Are you saying your SG-6100 takes 10 seconds to load the dash?

      Pete
      Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
      Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
      Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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        Stef93 @Cabledude
        last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:42 PM

        @Cabledude
        4-6s

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          Cabledude @Stef93
          last edited by Cabledude Nov 2, 2023, 12:48 PM Nov 2, 2023, 12:46 PM

          @Stef93 thank you. Then my 11 seconds is likely to be considered normal for the much lesser specc'ed CPU of the SG-2100.

          Still curious that your 6100 takes 4-6 seconds where my friend's 4100 takes only 2 seconds. His widget list is:

          • System Information, pfBlockerNG, Gateways, Interfaces, Services Status and Traffic Graphs

          Good chance your 6100 has more widgets or some other kind that waits for info to load ("spinning")

          Pete
          Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
          Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
          Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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            Stef93 @Cabledude
            last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:52 PM

            @Cabledude
            System Information, pfBlockerNG, Gateways, Interfaces, Services Status, Traffic Graphs x5
            +
            OpenVPN, Dynamic DNS Status, Ipsec, Disks

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:52 PM

              There is a specific fix coming for the 6100/8200 that speeds up the dashboard loading if you have the interfaces widget there and don't have any SFP modules loaded.
              It's in 23.09: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13911

              Steve

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                RobbieTT @Cabledude
                last edited by RobbieTT Nov 2, 2023, 12:59 PM Nov 2, 2023, 12:57 PM

                @Cabledude

                My 6100 with Optane takes 1.91 seconds to load the dashboard over wifi.

                My Xeon-D, also with Optane, takes 1.71 seconds over wifi:

                login-to-view

                I have a pretty busy dashboard and with live graphing, so it never really stops. Of course, with caching enabled and on a wired connection it will be quicker. My LAN uses SFP+ in both cases above.

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                  Cabledude @stephenw10
                  last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:59 PM

                  @stephenw10 Hi Steve, can you confirm SG-2100 dash load time being as high as mine given these widgets:
                  System Information: 3,5 seconds
                  Disks: + 1.5 seconds
                  pfBlockerNG: + 0.75 seconds
                  Gateways: + 0.3 seconds
                  Interfaces: + 1.5 seconds
                  Services Status: + 2 seconds
                  ZFS: + 1 second
                  Traffic Graphs: +0.5 seconds

                  Pete
                  Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                  Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                  Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                    Cabledude @RobbieTT
                    last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 1:01 PM

                    Thanks @RobbieTT . I don't recognize your screen shot as resembling a pfSense dashboard though.

                    Pete
                    Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                    Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                    Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 1:10 PM

                      If the box itself is busy then it can take a while to open the dash on the 2100. That does seem quite extreme though.

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                        RobbieTT @Cabledude
                        last edited by RobbieTT Nov 2, 2023, 1:13 PM Nov 2, 2023, 1:12 PM

                        @Cabledude said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                        Thanks @RobbieTT . I don't recognize your screen shot as resembling a pfSense dashboard though.

                        No, it's a timeline graph showing how long the page takes to load. The top of my dashboard looks like this:

                        login-to-view

                        ☕️

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                          Cabledude @stephenw10
                          last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 1:21 PM

                          @stephenw10 said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                          If the box itself is busy then it can take a while to open the dash on the 2100. That does seem quite extreme though.

                          No the unit is close to idle while doing these measurements.

                          When I simultaneously do an ISP speed test (400 down, 50 up) the dashboard will take 16 seconds to load.

                          Pete
                          Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                          Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                          Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                            JonathanLee @Cabledude
                            last edited by JonathanLee Nov 2, 2023, 2:43 PM Nov 2, 2023, 2:29 PM

                            @Cabledude to log in and get to a dashboard it takes mine 8-9 seconds depending on how much it is being used. However, with the ath0 driver built for the expansion WiFi card enabled it's a lot faster. With that being said I assume the AP also factors into this. I am using a 5ghz Wi-Fi.

                            login-to-view

                            login-to-view

                            I have a Wi-Fi card inside the 2100

                            I also use a external AP most of the time because I can't access my printer or NAS with that card enabled. Again it's much more responsive when I am accessing it over the Wi-Fi on PfSense when juxtaposed to the external AP.

                            Try to disable ClamAV Tac support recommended it for me as it uses a lot of memory.

                            Make sure to upvote

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                              Cabledude @JonathanLee
                              last edited by Cabledude Nov 2, 2023, 3:25 PM Nov 2, 2023, 3:24 PM

                              Thank you @JonathanLee. 8-9 seconds is in the same ballpark as 10-11. maybe I have more widgets than you, can't really tell from your screen shots, though the paintings are exceptionally spectacular.

                              I don't have a WiFi module inside the SG-2100, all cabled connections, which can't be slower than WiFi, probably faster. But I get the same dash loading times on my iPhone (connected to my LAN) so I suppose WiFi or cabled doesn't make a difference.

                              Could you list the widgets that you use?

                              Pete
                              Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                              Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                              Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                                Stef93 @JonathanLee
                                last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 3:33 PM

                                @JonathanLee
                                Can you please tell me the model or better photo of the wifi module?

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 5:20 PM

                                  Compex WLE200NX. That's the only card I'm aware of that works in the 2100.

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                                    JonathanLee @Stef93
                                    last edited by JonathanLee Nov 2, 2023, 9:34 PM Nov 2, 2023, 9:33 PM

                                    @Stef93 like @stephenw10 said, it is the Compex card

                                    Make sure to upvote

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                                      JonathanLee @Cabledude
                                      last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 9:37 PM

                                      @Cabledude for widgets I use . . .

                                      2 ART
                                      1 NTP
                                      1 System information
                                      1 Services Status
                                      1 Installed Packages
                                      1 Gateways

                                      Make sure to upvote

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                                        Cabledude @JonathanLee
                                        last edited by Nov 3, 2023, 1:37 AM

                                        @JonathanLee said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                                        @Cabledude for widgets I use . . .

                                        2 ART
                                        1 NTP
                                        1 System information
                                        1 Services Status
                                        1 Installed Packages
                                        1 Gateways

                                        So with these 5 widgets you use (I didn’t select the two ART ones) I get 7 seconds. So I suppose our units perform similarly.

                                        Pete
                                        Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                                        Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                                        Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                                          Stef93 @stephenw10
                                          last edited by Stef93 Nov 3, 2023, 3:07 AM Nov 3, 2023, 3:01 AM

                                          @stephenw10
                                          is this adapter suitable for netgate 6100?
                                          I don’t know if it’s a different version or model, but I found Compex WLE200NX 7A

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