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    Cabledude @Stef93
    last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:41 PM

    Thank you @Stef93. Are you saying your SG-6100 takes 10 seconds to load the dash?

    Pete
    Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
    Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
    Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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      Stef93 @Cabledude
      last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:42 PM

      @Cabledude
      4-6s

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        Cabledude @Stef93
        last edited by Cabledude Nov 2, 2023, 12:48 PM Nov 2, 2023, 12:46 PM

        @Stef93 thank you. Then my 11 seconds is likely to be considered normal for the much lesser specc'ed CPU of the SG-2100.

        Still curious that your 6100 takes 4-6 seconds where my friend's 4100 takes only 2 seconds. His widget list is:

        • System Information, pfBlockerNG, Gateways, Interfaces, Services Status and Traffic Graphs

        Good chance your 6100 has more widgets or some other kind that waits for info to load ("spinning")

        Pete
        Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
        Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
        Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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          Stef93 @Cabledude
          last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:52 PM

          @Cabledude
          System Information, pfBlockerNG, Gateways, Interfaces, Services Status, Traffic Graphs x5
          +
          OpenVPN, Dynamic DNS Status, Ipsec, Disks

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:52 PM

            There is a specific fix coming for the 6100/8200 that speeds up the dashboard loading if you have the interfaces widget there and don't have any SFP modules loaded.
            It's in 23.09: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13911

            Steve

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              RobbieTT @Cabledude
              last edited by RobbieTT Nov 2, 2023, 12:59 PM Nov 2, 2023, 12:57 PM

              @Cabledude

              My 6100 with Optane takes 1.91 seconds to load the dashboard over wifi.

              My Xeon-D, also with Optane, takes 1.71 seconds over wifi:

               2023-11-02 at 12.49.54.png

              I have a pretty busy dashboard and with live graphing, so it never really stops. Of course, with caching enabled and on a wired connection it will be quicker. My LAN uses SFP+ in both cases above.

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                Cabledude @stephenw10
                last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 12:59 PM

                @stephenw10 Hi Steve, can you confirm SG-2100 dash load time being as high as mine given these widgets:
                System Information: 3,5 seconds
                Disks: + 1.5 seconds
                pfBlockerNG: + 0.75 seconds
                Gateways: + 0.3 seconds
                Interfaces: + 1.5 seconds
                Services Status: + 2 seconds
                ZFS: + 1 second
                Traffic Graphs: +0.5 seconds

                Pete
                Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                  Cabledude @RobbieTT
                  last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 1:01 PM

                  Thanks @RobbieTT . I don't recognize your screen shot as resembling a pfSense dashboard though.

                  Pete
                  Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                  Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                  Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 1:10 PM

                    If the box itself is busy then it can take a while to open the dash on the 2100. That does seem quite extreme though.

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                      RobbieTT @Cabledude
                      last edited by RobbieTT Nov 2, 2023, 1:13 PM Nov 2, 2023, 1:12 PM

                      @Cabledude said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                      Thanks @RobbieTT . I don't recognize your screen shot as resembling a pfSense dashboard though.

                      No, it's a timeline graph showing how long the page takes to load. The top of my dashboard looks like this:

                       2023-11-02 at 13.05.22.png

                      ☕️

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                        Cabledude @stephenw10
                        last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 1:21 PM

                        @stephenw10 said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                        If the box itself is busy then it can take a while to open the dash on the 2100. That does seem quite extreme though.

                        No the unit is close to idle while doing these measurements.

                        When I simultaneously do an ISP speed test (400 down, 50 up) the dashboard will take 16 seconds to load.

                        Pete
                        Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                        Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                        Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                          JonathanLee @Cabledude
                          last edited by JonathanLee Nov 2, 2023, 2:43 PM Nov 2, 2023, 2:29 PM

                          @Cabledude to log in and get to a dashboard it takes mine 8-9 seconds depending on how much it is being used. However, with the ath0 driver built for the expansion WiFi card enabled it's a lot faster. With that being said I assume the AP also factors into this. I am using a 5ghz Wi-Fi.

                          Screenshot 2023-11-02 073934.png

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                          I have a Wi-Fi card inside the 2100

                          I also use a external AP most of the time because I can't access my printer or NAS with that card enabled. Again it's much more responsive when I am accessing it over the Wi-Fi on PfSense when juxtaposed to the external AP.

                          Try to disable ClamAV Tac support recommended it for me as it uses a lot of memory.

                          Make sure to upvote

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                            Cabledude @JonathanLee
                            last edited by Cabledude Nov 2, 2023, 3:25 PM Nov 2, 2023, 3:24 PM

                            Thank you @JonathanLee. 8-9 seconds is in the same ballpark as 10-11. maybe I have more widgets than you, can't really tell from your screen shots, though the paintings are exceptionally spectacular.

                            I don't have a WiFi module inside the SG-2100, all cabled connections, which can't be slower than WiFi, probably faster. But I get the same dash loading times on my iPhone (connected to my LAN) so I suppose WiFi or cabled doesn't make a difference.

                            Could you list the widgets that you use?

                            Pete
                            Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                            Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                            Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                              Stef93 @JonathanLee
                              last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 3:33 PM

                              @JonathanLee
                              Can you please tell me the model or better photo of the wifi module?

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 5:20 PM

                                Compex WLE200NX. That's the only card I'm aware of that works in the 2100.

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                                  JonathanLee @Stef93
                                  last edited by JonathanLee Nov 2, 2023, 9:34 PM Nov 2, 2023, 9:33 PM

                                  @Stef93 like @stephenw10 said, it is the Compex card

                                  Make sure to upvote

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                                    JonathanLee @Cabledude
                                    last edited by Nov 2, 2023, 9:37 PM

                                    @Cabledude for widgets I use . . .

                                    2 ART
                                    1 NTP
                                    1 System information
                                    1 Services Status
                                    1 Installed Packages
                                    1 Gateways

                                    Make sure to upvote

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                                      Cabledude @JonathanLee
                                      last edited by Nov 3, 2023, 1:37 AM

                                      @JonathanLee said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                                      @Cabledude for widgets I use . . .

                                      2 ART
                                      1 NTP
                                      1 System information
                                      1 Services Status
                                      1 Installed Packages
                                      1 Gateways

                                      So with these 5 widgets you use (I didn’t select the two ART ones) I get 7 seconds. So I suppose our units perform similarly.

                                      Pete
                                      Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                                      Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                                      Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                                        Stef93 @stephenw10
                                        last edited by Stef93 Nov 3, 2023, 3:07 AM Nov 3, 2023, 3:01 AM

                                        @stephenw10
                                        is this adapter suitable for netgate 6100?
                                        I don’t know if it’s a different version or model, but I found Compex WLE200NX 7A

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Nov 3, 2023, 1:19 PM

                                          @Stef93 said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                                          Compex WLE200NX 7A

                                          Probably. Though without actually testing it I can't be sure. The 2100 has very specific limitations for the PCIe slot.
                                          That appears to have the same fcc-id so I'd expected it to be close to identical.

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