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    • dennypageD
      dennypage @ghound
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      @ghound said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

      Behavior has persisted through several updates. (In fact, UPS has never not had this issue from its first day out of the box.)

      Okay, I'm confused. Please detail what previous version/date that the problem did not occur, and what version/date began to occurr.

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        ghound @dennypage
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        @dennypage said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

        Okay, I'm confused. Please detail what previous version/date that the problem did not occur, and what version/date began to occurr.

        TrippLite UPS was purchased new in May '23 and connected to SG-1100 (23.05 / 2.8.0_2). You gave me a few tips to properly load usbhid-ups. Once usbhid-ups loaded correctly, after a few days, UPS lost connection (so the UPS has never operated without the lost connection problem every few days). At the time, I believed this was the "lost connection" problem mentioned in the thread. The problem has persisted from first connection to today. SG-1100 is currently 23.09.1 and Nut 2.8.2_1.

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        • dennypageD
          dennypage @ghound
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          @ghound said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

          TrippLite UPS was purchased new in May '23 and connected to SG-1100 (23.05 / 2.8.0_2). You gave me a few tips to properly load usbhid-ups. Once usbhid-ups loaded correctly, after a few days, UPS lost connection (so the UPS has never operated without the lost connection problem every few days). At the time, I believed this was the "lost connection" problem mentioned in the thread. The problem has persisted from first connection to today. SG-1100 is currently 23.09.1 and Nut 2.8.2_1.

          Ah, okay. It's never operated correctly. I had misunderstood that it was a regression.

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            pvk1 @dennypage
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            @dennypage Sorry if this is the wrong place. I migrated the configuration to a Netgate 4200. I have NUT package 2.8.2_1. It had permission errors. After including user=root in the ups.conf section (as suggested by you in the previous track) it started working. It also worked on the previous system.
            Schermafbeelding 2024-03-30 091809.png

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            • dennypageD
              dennypage @pvk1
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              @pvk1 Ownership of the /var/db/nut directory is incorrect. The following command will fix that:

              chown -R nut:nut /var/db/nut
              

              The errors for /usr/local/etc/nut are more of an issue. Those files should be accessed prior to switching to user "nut". What version of pfSense are you running? What does

              pkg info | grep nut
              

              report? Thx.

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                pvk1 @dennypage
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                @dennypage
                I am running: 23.09.1-RELEASE (amd64)

                pkg info:

                nut-devel-2024.01.03 Network UPS Tools
                pfSense-pkg-nut-2.8.2_1 Network UPS Tools

                thx

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                • dennypageD
                  dennypage @pvk1
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                  @pvk1 Can you post the output of the the following commands please?

                  ls -l /var/db/nut
                  ls -l /usr/local/etc/nut
                  

                  Thanks

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                    pvk1 @dennypage
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                    @dennypage Hi, thx

                    ls -l /var/db/nut
                    total 0
                    ls: /var/db/nut: Permission denied

                    ls -l /usr/local/etc/nut
                    total 143
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 15136 Mar 4 22:00 cmdvartab
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 98236 Mar 4 22:00 driver.list
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1071 Mar 4 22:00 hosts.conf
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1071 Mar 4 22:00 hosts.conf.sample
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4774 Mar 4 22:00 nut.conf
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4774 Mar 4 22:00 nut.conf.sample
                    -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 124 Apr 1 18:43 ups.conf
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9845 Mar 4 22:00 ups.conf.sample
                    -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 28 Apr 1 18:43 upsd.conf
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9199 Mar 4 22:00 upsd.conf.sample
                    -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 167 Apr 1 18:43 upsd.users
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2349 Mar 4 22:00 upsd.users.sample
                    -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 530 Apr 1 18:43 upsmon.conf
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 24735 Mar 4 22:00 upsmon.conf.sample
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4217 Mar 4 22:00 upssched.conf
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4217 Mar 4 22:00 upssched.conf.sample
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1871 Mar 4 22:00 upsset.conf
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1871 Mar 4 22:00 upsset.conf.sample
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6861 Mar 4 22:00 upsstats-single.html
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6861 Mar 4 22:00 upsstats-single.html.sample
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4096 Mar 4 22:00 upsstats.html
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4096 Mar 4 22:00 upsstats.html.sample

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @pvk1
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                      @pvk1 said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

                      ls: /var/db/nut: Permission denied

                      Strange.
                      You are root, right ?

                      [24.03-BETA][root@pfSense.bhf.tld]/root: whoami
                      root
                      

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      • dennypageD
                        dennypage @pvk1
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                        @pvk1 said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

                        ls -l /var/db/nut
                        total 0
                        ls: /var/db/nut: Permission denied

                        As @Gertjan noted, you need to run the commands as root.

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                          pvk1 @dennypage
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                          @dennypage
                          Thx. I had disabled the admin user, so I could not login as root. The user that I login with is member of the system admins.

                          I now enabled admin again.
                          s: /var/db/nut:
                          -rw-r--r-- 1 root nut 6 Apr 2 13:19 upsd.pid
                          -rw-r--r-- 1 root nut 6 Apr 2 13:19 upsmon.pid
                          srw-rw---- 1 root nut 0 Apr 2 13:19 usbhid-ups-ups
                          -rw-r--r-- 1 root nut 6 Apr 2 13:19 usbhid-ups-ups.pid

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                          • dennypageD
                            dennypage @pvk1
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                            @pvk1 Running as non-root will require that ownership of /var/db/nut, and all files therein, to be user "nut".

                            Note that all of the following needs to be done as root.

                            Suggested path:

                            • Remove user=root from the configuration. NB: If you have anything else in the Advanced section, please post that before continuing...
                            • Shut down the UPS service via command "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/nut.sh stop".
                            • Do "ps -axuw | grep ups" and see if any of the nut commands, such as upsmon, are still running. If they are you can stop them with "killall upsmon".
                            • Change ownership of /var/db/nut via command "chown -R nut /var/db/nut".

                            Following that, you should see permissions like so:

                            [23.09.1-RELEASE][root@fw]/root: ls -ld /var/db
                            drwxr-xr-x  22 root wheel 54 Apr  2 08:29 /var/db
                            [23.09.1-RELEASE][root@fw.cococafe.com]/root: ls -la /var/db/nut
                            total 10
                            drwxr-x---   2 nut  nut    3 Apr  2 10:17 .
                            drwxr-xr-x  22 root wheel 54 Apr  2 08:29 ..
                            -rw-r--r--   1 nut  uucp   6 Apr  1 14:40 upsmon.pid
                            [23.09.1-RELEASE][root@fw]/root:
                            

                            You can also check permissions for /usr/local/etc/nut like so:

                            [23.09.1-RELEASE][root@fw]/root: ls -ld /usr/local/etc
                            drwxr-xr-x  35 root wheel 91 Apr  2 08:45 /usr/local/etc
                            [23.09.1-RELEASE][root@fw]/root: ls -ld /usr/local/etc/nut
                            drwxr-xr-x  2 root wheel 24 Feb 10 12:16 /usr/local/etc/nut
                            [23.09.1-RELEASE][root@fw]/root: ls -la /usr/local/etc/nut/*.conf
                            -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel 1071 Feb  7 11:02 /usr/local/etc/nut/hosts.conf
                            -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel 4774 Feb  7 11:02 /usr/local/etc/nut/nut.conf
                            -rw-r-----  1 root wheel   43 Apr  1 14:29 /usr/local/etc/nut/ups.conf
                            -rw-r-----  1 root wheel   28 Apr  1 14:29 /usr/local/etc/nut/upsd.conf
                            -rw-r-----  1 root wheel  530 Apr  1 14:29 /usr/local/etc/nut/upsmon.conf
                            -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel 4217 Feb  7 11:02 /usr/local/etc/nut/upssched.conf
                            -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel 1871 Feb  7 11:02 /usr/local/etc/nut/upsset.conf
                            [23.09.1-RELEASE][root@fw]/root:
                            

                            Lastly, start the UPS service via command "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/nut.sh start".

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                              dennypage @pvk1
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                              @pvk1 said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

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                              It just occurred to me... was this attempt to start nut via /usr/local/etc/rc.d/nut.sh done as a non root user?

                              If so, the output makes perfect sense.

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                                jonlecroy
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                                @dennypage I just upgraded to pfsense 24.03 with nut 2.8.2_2. Does this have the fix for this issue, or should I reapply the private? Thanks!

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                                  dennypage @jonlecroy
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                                  @jonlecroy said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

                                  Does this have the fix for this issue, or should I reapply the private?

                                  What issue are you referring to?

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                                    jonlecroy @dennypage
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                                    @dennypage Ah sorry, this is a general thread isn't it. The UPS regular maintenance sending an 'administrative off' which triggers a pfsense immediate halt when it shouldn't.

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                                      dennypage @jonlecroy
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                                      @jonlecroy said in NUT Package (2.8.1 and above):

                                      The UPS regular maintenance sending an 'administrative off' which triggers a pfsense immediate halt when it shouldn't.

                                      I believe this is addressed, yes.

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                                        incith
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                                        For what it's worth, I just did a pkg-static remove nut-devel and pfsense nut 2.8.2_1 blah blah. Cleaned it all out. Did a pkg-static update made sure repo is current. Installed the latest 2 packages from pfsense web gui, and tripplite USB is still broken.

                                        pkg install -f nut-devel-2023.10.07_1.pkg

                                        And it's fixed again.

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                                        • dennypageD
                                          dennypage @incith
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                                          @incith The next release is expected switch over to the 2.8.2 production release of NUT.

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                                            rarlup
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                                            Not sure if you guys are aware but there is a bug with 2.8.2_4 and PPPoE as in when WAN goes down UPS states it's on battery (usbhid driver) and this causes unexpected shutdowns with internet offline, obviously.
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                                            pfSense+
                                            24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                                            built on Sat Jan 11 18:11:00 EET 2025
                                            FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT

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