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    FrankZappa @dennypage
    last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:07 AM

    @dennypage Thanks dennypage. Here's a screenshot of everything I have.
    7074717a-e238-4700-b97b-7799530905d3-image.png

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      tgl
      last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:15 AM

      I'm not sure what "battery.date" is really meant to be, but it reads as 2001/09/25 on my APC UPSes too. Maybe it identifies the age of the design? Anyway, these fields seem considerably more plausible as the real age of the one I'm looking at:

      battery.mfr.date: 2022/04/13
      ups.mfr.date: 2022/04/13

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        tgl @dennypage
        last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:22 AM

        @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

        For test info, look for "ups.test.date" and/or "ups.test.result" in Services / UPS /UPS Status. Are these being reported by the UPS to NUT?

        A field like "ups.test.date" could only get populated accurately if the UPS contains an RTC. I've owned a lot of UPSes over the years, and never seen any indication that they have settable clocks. The date fields they do output all look like burned-in-at-the-factory values.

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          dennypage @FrankZappa
          last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:28 AM

          @FrankZappa So, your battery date really does show as 2001/09/25. I believe this means that it was not set at the factory. Looks like the apcupsd widget was reporting the UPS manufacture date rather than the battery install date.

          To set the battery date, you can (hopefully) use upsrw.

          Use

          upsrw -l UPSNAME
          

          to see what variables you can write in the UPS. The variable you are looking for is "battery.date".

          Your "ups.test.result" shows that no self test has been run on the UPS. For higher end APC UPSs, this is done by automatic timer. For lower end UPSs, you have to trigger it manually. If you do that, you will have to write the test date yourself--look for variable "ups.test.date" in the upsrw output.

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            dennypage @tgl
            last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:32 AM

            @tgl said in NUT dashboard widget:

            I'm not sure what "battery.date" is really meant to be, but it reads as 2001/09/25 on my APC UPSes too.

            See note above. It just means that it wasn't set at factory or at the point of initial install (which requires a UPS that has time capability).

            If the UPS doesn't have time capability, then you are responsible for maintaining this field by hand when you initially install and/or change batteries.

            If your UPS has a network management card, this would be handled automatically. My current APC is like this.

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              dennypage @FrankZappa
              last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:36 AM

              @FrankZappa Forgot to mention. To run a self-test, would use upscmd. To see a list of commands the UPS will accept, use:

              upscmd -l UPSNAME
              

              Most likely, the command will be:

              upscmd UPSNAME test.battery.start
              
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                tgl @dennypage
                last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:36 AM

                @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

                See note above. It just means that it wasn't set at factory or at the point of initial install (which requires a UPS that has time capability).

                On mine, it's not settable period. "upsrw -l" claims to be able to set "battery.mfr.date", but not any other kind of date.

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                  dennypage @tgl
                  last edited by dennypage May 20, 2024, 1:39 AM May 20, 2024, 1:37 AM

                  @tgl What brand/model?

                  FWIW, "ups.mfr.date" is a standard field, but I don't recall ever seeing "battery.mfr.date"

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                    tgl @dennypage
                    last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:39 AM

                    @dennypage
                    APC Back-UPS Pro BR1500MS2

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                      dennypage @tgl
                      last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:40 AM

                      @tgl Please post Services / UPS / Status.

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                        tgl @dennypage
                        last edited by May 20, 2024, 1:44 AM

                        @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

                        @tgl Please post Services / UPS / Status.

                        I don't actually have NUT installed on my router (yet); this UPS is connected to a Linux server. "upsc" reports what I suppose you want:

                        battery.charge: 100
                        battery.charge.low: 10
                        battery.charge.warning: 50
                        battery.date: 2001/09/25
                        battery.mfr.date: 2022/04/13
                        battery.runtime: 4152
                        battery.runtime.low: 120
                        battery.type: PbAc
                        battery.voltage: 27.3
                        battery.voltage.nominal: 24.0
                        device.mfr: American Power Conversion
                        device.model: Back-UPS RS 1500MS2
                        device.serial: 0B2216N04901  
                        device.type: ups
                        driver.name: usbhid-ups
                        driver.parameter.offdelay: 50
                        driver.parameter.ondelay: 60
                        driver.parameter.pollfreq: 100
                        driver.parameter.pollinterval: 10
                        driver.parameter.port: auto
                        driver.parameter.synchronous: auto
                        driver.version: 2.8.0
                        driver.version.data: APC HID 0.98
                        driver.version.internal: 0.47
                        driver.version.usb: libusb-1.0.23 (API: 0x1000107)
                        input.sensitivity: medium
                        input.transfer.high: 147
                        input.transfer.low: 88
                        input.voltage: 124.0
                        input.voltage.nominal: 120
                        ups.beeper.status: disabled
                        ups.delay.shutdown: 50
                        ups.firmware: 969.e2 .D
                        ups.firmware.aux: e2     
                        ups.load: 10
                        ups.mfr: American Power Conversion
                        ups.mfr.date: 2022/04/13
                        ups.model: Back-UPS RS 1500MS2
                        ups.productid: 0002
                        ups.realpower.nominal: 900
                        ups.serial: 0B2216N04901  
                        ups.status: OL
                        ups.test.result: No test initiated
                        ups.timer.reboot: 0
                        ups.timer.shutdown: -1
                        ups.vendorid: 051d
                        
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                          dennypage @tgl
                          last edited by May 20, 2024, 2:39 AM

                          @tgl two quick questions:

                          • Output of upsrw -l
                          • Version of NUT
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                            tgl @dennypage
                            last edited by May 20, 2024, 2:46 AM

                            @dennypage

                            Sure:

                            $ upsrw -l xxx_ups
                            [battery.charge.low]
                            Remaining battery level when UPS switches to LB (percent)
                            Type: STRING
                            Maximum length: 10
                            Value: 10
                            
                            [battery.mfr.date]
                            Battery manufacturing date
                            Type: STRING
                            Maximum length: 10
                            Value: 2022/04/13
                            
                            [battery.runtime.low]
                            Remaining battery runtime when UPS switches to LB (seconds)
                            Type: STRING
                            Maximum length: 10
                            Value: 120
                            
                            [input.sensitivity]
                            Input power sensitivity
                            Type: STRING
                            Maximum length: 10
                            Value: medium
                            
                            [input.transfer.high]
                            High voltage transfer point (V)
                            Type: STRING
                            Maximum length: 10
                            Value: 147
                            
                            [input.transfer.low]
                            Low voltage transfer point (V)
                            Type: STRING
                            Maximum length: 10
                            Value: 88
                            
                            [ups.delay.shutdown]
                            Interval to wait after shutdown with delay command (seconds)
                            Type: STRING
                            Maximum length: 10
                            Value: 50
                            
                            

                            The Linux machine is running RHEL8, and its relevant packages are

                            $ rpm -qa | grep ^nut
                            nut-2.8.0-3.el8.x86_64
                            nut-client-2.8.0-3.el8.x86_64
                            $ rpm -qa | grep ^libusb
                            libusb-0.1.5-12.el8.x86_64
                            libusbx-devel-1.0.23-4.el8.x86_64
                            libusbx-1.0.23-4.el8.x86_64
                            libusb-devel-0.1.5-12.el8.x86_64
                            libusbmuxd-1.0.10-9.el8.x86_64
                            
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                              FrankZappa @dennypage
                              last edited by May 20, 2024, 10:07 AM

                              @dennypage Hmmmm, tried to change the battery date but was asked for a password. Huh?

                              e3cb8abd-d85c-4a7b-8c65-3f741fd71856-image.png

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                                Gertjan @FrankZappa
                                last edited by May 20, 2024, 10:30 AM

                                @FrankZappa

                                Use the real command line, console or SSH for this - option 8.

                                Start with :

                                cat /usr/local/etc/nut/upsd.users
                                

                                and if all goes well, you see the 'user 'admin, and the password to use.

                                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                  dennypage @FrankZappa
                                  last edited by May 20, 2024, 2:47 PM

                                  @FrankZappa said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                  Hmmmm, tried to change the battery date but was asked for a password. Huh?

                                  Yes, writing requires an authorized NUT user. The actual command you will want is:

                                  upsrw -s battery.date=2024/05/20 -u admin -p PASSWORD QNAPUPS
                                  

                                  The admin password is automatically generated when you save the NUT configuration. As @Gertjan notes, you can find the current password in /usr/local/etc/nut/upsd.users.

                                  Btw, be sure the date is in the same locale format as upsc outputs.

                                  It's easiest to do this all in an ssh session.

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                                    dennypage @tgl
                                    last edited by dennypage May 20, 2024, 3:40 PM May 20, 2024, 3:35 PM

                                    @tgl said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                    [battery.mfr.date]
                                    Battery manufacturing date
                                    Type: STRING
                                    Maximum length: 10
                                    Value: 2022/04/13

                                    This looks like a bug in the usbhid-ups driver. The UPS variable being mapped to battery.mfr.date should have been mapped to battery.date. There appear to be other bugs: on my main (new generation) APC, most of the dates and voltages disappear when switching to the USB interface (vs the SNMP interface). I'll dig into this when I have time.

                                    Btw, if interested you can find a list of all possible variables here. Variable "battery.date" is defined as "Battery installation or last change date." Variable "battery.mfr.date" is defined as "Battery manufacturing date", and was read-only prior to NUT 8.0.

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                                      FrankZappa @dennypage
                                      last edited by May 20, 2024, 11:16 PM

                                      @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                      upsrw -s battery.date=2024/05/20 -u admin -p PASSWORD QNAPUPS

                                      I tried it with the password and i get the following error "Unexpected response from upsd: ERR READONLY"

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                                        FrankZappa @FrankZappa
                                        last edited by May 20, 2024, 11:21 PM

                                        @FrankZappa Also noticed there are two entries in the NUT Services/UPS/Status
                                        battery.date 2001/09/25
                                        battery.mfr.date 2021/04/10

                                        The battery.mfr.date is correct. Thats when I bought the APC.
                                        However, the battery.date (and install date on widget) is waaaaaaay off. Can the widget reflect the battery.mfr.date?

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                                          dennypage @FrankZappa
                                          last edited by May 21, 2024, 7:24 AM

                                          @FrankZappa said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                          battery.date 2001/09/25
                                          battery.mfr.date 2021/04/10

                                          The battery.mfr.date is correct. Thats when I bought the APC.
                                          However, the battery.date (and install date on widget) is waaaaaaay off. Can the widget reflect the battery.mfr.date?

                                          I've researched a bit, and it appears that the battery date situation with USB UPSs is a bit messed up. In addition to issues like battery.date vs battery.mfr.date you and @tgl encountered with APC, the CyberPower issues appear even worse.

                                          Truth be told, it probably isn't all NUT's fault as it looks like the manufacturers don't seem to completely agree how the dates should map with USB ids.

                                          I think for the time being I'm going to pull the battery install date out of the status widget, at least for USB UPSs. I think as things currently are it would end up causing too much confusion with folks. I'll revisit it in the future.

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