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    • dennypageD
      dennypage @FrankZappa
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      @FrankZappa Forgot to mention. To run a self-test, would use upscmd. To see a list of commands the UPS will accept, use:

      upscmd -l UPSNAME
      

      Most likely, the command will be:

      upscmd UPSNAME test.battery.start
      
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        tgl @dennypage
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        @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

        See note above. It just means that it wasn't set at factory or at the point of initial install (which requires a UPS that has time capability).

        On mine, it's not settable period. "upsrw -l" claims to be able to set "battery.mfr.date", but not any other kind of date.

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        • dennypageD
          dennypage @tgl
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          @tgl What brand/model?

          FWIW, "ups.mfr.date" is a standard field, but I don't recall ever seeing "battery.mfr.date"

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            tgl @dennypage
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            @dennypage
            APC Back-UPS Pro BR1500MS2

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            • dennypageD
              dennypage @tgl
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              @tgl Please post Services / UPS / Status.

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                tgl @dennypage
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                @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

                @tgl Please post Services / UPS / Status.

                I don't actually have NUT installed on my router (yet); this UPS is connected to a Linux server. "upsc" reports what I suppose you want:

                battery.charge: 100
                battery.charge.low: 10
                battery.charge.warning: 50
                battery.date: 2001/09/25
                battery.mfr.date: 2022/04/13
                battery.runtime: 4152
                battery.runtime.low: 120
                battery.type: PbAc
                battery.voltage: 27.3
                battery.voltage.nominal: 24.0
                device.mfr: American Power Conversion
                device.model: Back-UPS RS 1500MS2
                device.serial: 0B2216N04901  
                device.type: ups
                driver.name: usbhid-ups
                driver.parameter.offdelay: 50
                driver.parameter.ondelay: 60
                driver.parameter.pollfreq: 100
                driver.parameter.pollinterval: 10
                driver.parameter.port: auto
                driver.parameter.synchronous: auto
                driver.version: 2.8.0
                driver.version.data: APC HID 0.98
                driver.version.internal: 0.47
                driver.version.usb: libusb-1.0.23 (API: 0x1000107)
                input.sensitivity: medium
                input.transfer.high: 147
                input.transfer.low: 88
                input.voltage: 124.0
                input.voltage.nominal: 120
                ups.beeper.status: disabled
                ups.delay.shutdown: 50
                ups.firmware: 969.e2 .D
                ups.firmware.aux: e2     
                ups.load: 10
                ups.mfr: American Power Conversion
                ups.mfr.date: 2022/04/13
                ups.model: Back-UPS RS 1500MS2
                ups.productid: 0002
                ups.realpower.nominal: 900
                ups.serial: 0B2216N04901  
                ups.status: OL
                ups.test.result: No test initiated
                ups.timer.reboot: 0
                ups.timer.shutdown: -1
                ups.vendorid: 051d
                
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                • dennypageD
                  dennypage @tgl
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                  @tgl two quick questions:

                  • Output of upsrw -l
                  • Version of NUT
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                    tgl @dennypage
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                    @dennypage

                    Sure:

                    $ upsrw -l xxx_ups
                    [battery.charge.low]
                    Remaining battery level when UPS switches to LB (percent)
                    Type: STRING
                    Maximum length: 10
                    Value: 10
                    
                    [battery.mfr.date]
                    Battery manufacturing date
                    Type: STRING
                    Maximum length: 10
                    Value: 2022/04/13
                    
                    [battery.runtime.low]
                    Remaining battery runtime when UPS switches to LB (seconds)
                    Type: STRING
                    Maximum length: 10
                    Value: 120
                    
                    [input.sensitivity]
                    Input power sensitivity
                    Type: STRING
                    Maximum length: 10
                    Value: medium
                    
                    [input.transfer.high]
                    High voltage transfer point (V)
                    Type: STRING
                    Maximum length: 10
                    Value: 147
                    
                    [input.transfer.low]
                    Low voltage transfer point (V)
                    Type: STRING
                    Maximum length: 10
                    Value: 88
                    
                    [ups.delay.shutdown]
                    Interval to wait after shutdown with delay command (seconds)
                    Type: STRING
                    Maximum length: 10
                    Value: 50
                    
                    

                    The Linux machine is running RHEL8, and its relevant packages are

                    $ rpm -qa | grep ^nut
                    nut-2.8.0-3.el8.x86_64
                    nut-client-2.8.0-3.el8.x86_64
                    $ rpm -qa | grep ^libusb
                    libusb-0.1.5-12.el8.x86_64
                    libusbx-devel-1.0.23-4.el8.x86_64
                    libusbx-1.0.23-4.el8.x86_64
                    libusb-devel-0.1.5-12.el8.x86_64
                    libusbmuxd-1.0.10-9.el8.x86_64
                    
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                      FrankZappa @dennypage
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                      @dennypage Hmmmm, tried to change the battery date but was asked for a password. Huh?

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                      • GertjanG
                        Gertjan @FrankZappa
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                        @FrankZappa

                        Use the real command line, console or SSH for this - option 8.

                        Start with :

                        cat /usr/local/etc/nut/upsd.users
                        

                        and if all goes well, you see the 'user 'admin, and the password to use.

                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                        • dennypageD
                          dennypage @FrankZappa
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                          @FrankZappa said in NUT dashboard widget:

                          Hmmmm, tried to change the battery date but was asked for a password. Huh?

                          Yes, writing requires an authorized NUT user. The actual command you will want is:

                          upsrw -s battery.date=2024/05/20 -u admin -p PASSWORD QNAPUPS
                          

                          The admin password is automatically generated when you save the NUT configuration. As @Gertjan notes, you can find the current password in /usr/local/etc/nut/upsd.users.

                          Btw, be sure the date is in the same locale format as upsc outputs.

                          It's easiest to do this all in an ssh session.

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                          • dennypageD
                            dennypage @tgl
                            last edited by dennypage

                            @tgl said in NUT dashboard widget:

                            [battery.mfr.date]
                            Battery manufacturing date
                            Type: STRING
                            Maximum length: 10
                            Value: 2022/04/13

                            This looks like a bug in the usbhid-ups driver. The UPS variable being mapped to battery.mfr.date should have been mapped to battery.date. There appear to be other bugs: on my main (new generation) APC, most of the dates and voltages disappear when switching to the USB interface (vs the SNMP interface). I'll dig into this when I have time.

                            Btw, if interested you can find a list of all possible variables here. Variable "battery.date" is defined as "Battery installation or last change date." Variable "battery.mfr.date" is defined as "Battery manufacturing date", and was read-only prior to NUT 8.0.

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                              FrankZappa @dennypage
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                              @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

                              upsrw -s battery.date=2024/05/20 -u admin -p PASSWORD QNAPUPS

                              I tried it with the password and i get the following error "Unexpected response from upsd: ERR READONLY"

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                                FrankZappa @FrankZappa
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                                @FrankZappa Also noticed there are two entries in the NUT Services/UPS/Status
                                battery.date 2001/09/25
                                battery.mfr.date 2021/04/10

                                The battery.mfr.date is correct. Thats when I bought the APC.
                                However, the battery.date (and install date on widget) is waaaaaaay off. Can the widget reflect the battery.mfr.date?

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                                  dennypage @FrankZappa
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                                  @FrankZappa said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                  battery.date 2001/09/25
                                  battery.mfr.date 2021/04/10

                                  The battery.mfr.date is correct. Thats when I bought the APC.
                                  However, the battery.date (and install date on widget) is waaaaaaay off. Can the widget reflect the battery.mfr.date?

                                  I've researched a bit, and it appears that the battery date situation with USB UPSs is a bit messed up. In addition to issues like battery.date vs battery.mfr.date you and @tgl encountered with APC, the CyberPower issues appear even worse.

                                  Truth be told, it probably isn't all NUT's fault as it looks like the manufacturers don't seem to completely agree how the dates should map with USB ids.

                                  I think for the time being I'm going to pull the battery install date out of the status widget, at least for USB UPSs. I think as things currently are it would end up causing too much confusion with folks. I'll revisit it in the future.

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                                    tgl @dennypage
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                                    @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                    I think for the time being I'm going to pull the battery install date out of the status widget, at least for USB UPSs. I think as things currently are it would end up causing too much confusion with folks. I'll revisit it in the future.

                                    Maybe, if the UPS reports both battery.date and battery.mfr.date, you could show the later one?

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                                      FrankZappa @tgl
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                                      @tgl I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to bug Dennypage anymore. Of course, if Dennypage is bored........well?

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                                        dennypage @tgl
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                                        @tgl said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                        Maybe, if the UPS reports both battery.date and battery.mfr.date, you could show the later one?

                                        Unfortunately, that would be locale specific, which is a real pain for date comparison. I'd rather work on fixing some of the issues with NUT itself.

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                                          tgl @dennypage
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                                          @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                          Unfortunately, that would be locale specific, which is a real pain for date comparison.

                                          Would it? I'm no expert, but I had the impression that these specific date strings are expected to always have the format yyyy/mm/dd. I agree that it'd be a mess if they don't.

                                          I'd rather work on fixing some of the issues with NUT itself.

                                          Fair, although from what you said upthread it's not clear that that'll yield a solution to this problem.

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                                          • dennypageD
                                            dennypage @tgl
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                                            @tgl said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                            @dennypage said in NUT dashboard widget:

                                            Unfortunately, that would be locale specific, which is a real pain for date comparison.

                                            Would it? I'm no expert, but I had the impression that these specific date strings are expected to always have the format yyyy/mm/dd. I agree that it'd be a mess if they don't.

                                            Yes, the dates are presented in locale specific format. 2024/05/10, 2024/10/05, 05/10/2024, 10/05/2024. My date format is happens to be mm/dd/yyyy (see sample pic above), which I hate. If I had my druthers, all dates would all be in iso format (2025-05-10), but it’s outside of my control.

                                            I'd rather work on fixing some of the issues with NUT itself.

                                            Fair, although from what you said upthread it's not clear that that'll yield a solution to this problem.

                                            I’ve reasonable success working PRs/issues with NUT. Changes need to happen there, because there is no way that the vendors are gonna change anything. 😬

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