Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    I have no idea whos causing this traffic....

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General pfSense Questions
    30 Posts 11 Posters 2.9k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • DaddyGoD
      DaddyGo @JKnott
      last edited by

      @JKnott said in I have no idea whos causing this traffic....:

      I also use a TP-Link TL-SG105E switch

      Well, then we think on the same way 😉

      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • M
        marvosa
        last edited by marvosa

        One crude option is watching the traffic graph live (Status -> Traffic Graph) and changing the interface to LAN. Depending on your network design, if you're not seeing any data, you may also have to change the filer to "Remote".

        Another option is to install the ntopng package. In the ntopng settings menu, make sure that all of your LAN interfaces are tagged. Once in the ntopng webgui, click on the "Flows" menu across the top and you will see details (protocol, source, destination, throughput, etc) about each connection. From there I would sort by the "Actual Thpt" column so the connections generating the most bandwidth are at the top of the list.

        Yet another option is installing the softflowd package and pointing it at a netflow collector like PRTG.

        I would use ntopng. You should be able to find the offending device in a few min.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
        • AKEGECA
          AKEGEC
          last edited by

          I think I saw similar forum thread from Belgian op not long ago. I am not sure if he already found the solution.

          Wireshark is a great tool but if I may suggest, use QRadar CE (FREE) to analyze your live Pfsense logs.

          alt text

          alt text

          Like today, I found a lot offensive IP addresses.

          DaddyGoD 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            @AKEGEC said in I have no idea whos causing this traffic....:

            QRadar CE

            Thanks for the mention - I found something to play with this weekend ;)

            But a SIEM is completely different animal than protocol analyzer like wireshark ;)

            Normally your SIEM doesn't even accept flows, so you can't really see say your top talkers or who is talking to who, unless you logging allowed rules, etc.. And just seeing something was allowed doesn't show you how much data they are moving, etc.

            But it does look interesting - so think will fire up the CE.. 50 events a second should be pretty reasonable.. for what your home setup would see.

            An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
            If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
            Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
            SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • bingo600B
              bingo600 @JKnott
              last edited by bingo600

              @JKnott

              You can do remote tcpdump on pfSense , and ssh tunnel it to wireshark , using these steps.

              Assumptions:
              -----------------
              pfSense vers : 2.4.5-p1
              Username on both linux & pfSense : pfuser
              Firewall hostname : pf-fw-01
              Interface to sniff on : igb1.100  
              
              
              Install / Prepare Steps:
              ------------------------------
              As admin on pfSense
              install
              pkg install security/sudo
              
              
              
              As admin on pfSense  (syyshhh)
              -------------------------------
              1: visudo , add : %admins ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
              2: vi /etc/groups , make sure your user is member of admins.
              
              
              As root on local linux (Wireshark display machine)
              ---------------------------------------------------
              3: ssh-keygen
              4: ssh-copy-id pfuser@pf-fw-01
              
              Use wireshark as frontend for pfSense tcpdump ... aka. Start a sniff
              ----------------------------------------------------------------------
              As root on local linux machine (to begin wireshark "remote" snif and tunnel data via ssh) - 'not port 22' (don't match ssh, used for tunneling data) 
              
              ssh pfuser@pf-fw-01 sudo tcpdump -iigb1.100 -U -s0 -w - 'not port 22' | wireshark -k -i -
              
              

              These are some notes I took like 2 years back , on 2.4-RC

              I'm not sure if the "ssh keygen" steps (3-4) in the linux machine, makes sense to do as root. I might have done that as pfuser

              But i just tried a remote wireshark , and it still works in 2.4.5-p1
              if-name had to be changed from -iigb1_vlan100 to -iigb1.100

              Edit:
              Watch out .. This will load your ssh connection hard
              Don't sniff a loaded 1Gb if , via a remote 20Mb ssh
              Use a pfSense local pcap dump instead , or make a more specific tcp dump match on the pfSense
              /Bingo

              If you find my answer useful - Please give the post a 👍 - "thumbs up"

              pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

              QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
              CPU  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
              LAN  : 4 x Intel 211, Disk  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • DaddyGoD
                DaddyGo @AKEGEC
                last edited by DaddyGo

                @AKEGEC said in I have no idea whos causing this traffic....:

                Wireshark is a great tool but if I may suggest, use QRadar CE (FREE) to analyze your live Pfsense logs.

                @AKEGEC - I haven't met this stuff yet, thanks 😉

                I agree with @johnpoz, but it seems like a really good little tool for logging for home setup.
                This is not a protocol analyzer, currently Wireshark + Nmap I think meets the needs of every administrator.
                I will mention, who might be interested in the theme,.... the new Nmap 7.91 and the big star Npcap 1.00 available. A good Npcap 1.00 was already needed.
                https://seclists.org/nmap-announce/2020/0

                In any case, it is much better than the PRTG, ........- mentioned by @marvosa, which as we know is free for only up to 100 sensors, nor is it a protocol analyzer.

                We prefer this rather........:
                https://securityonionsolutions.com/software
                (for loging and static PCAP analysis)

                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  I love these statements ;)

                  "QRadar that is low memory, low EPS"

                  But then

                  Minimum System Requirements:
                  
                      8 GB RAM (10 GB is recommended)
                      250 GB free disk space
                      2 CPU cores (6 cores is recommended)
                  

                  Thought I might throw this up on my nas.. Not with those requirements..

                  An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                  If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                  Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                  SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

                  DaddyGoD AKEGECA 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • DaddyGoD
                    DaddyGo @johnpoz
                    last edited by DaddyGo

                    @johnpoz said in I have no idea whos causing this traffic....:

                    "QRadar that is low memory, low EPS"

                    Yes, you need a separate power machine for the end - or we misunderstand the concept of low.
                    I can’t even download it yet, I want to play with it a bit.

                    BUT 😞

                    c392a319-7067-4399-941f-3eefd8b48240-image.png

                    IBM, did not say this when I provided my email address when registering

                    it's good to have a gmail address used for this purpose, hahahaha
                    for I would be in their net....

                    ++edit:

                    what a junk attempt 😂

                    Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                    (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • AKEGECA
                      AKEGEC @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz said in I have no idea whos causing this traffic....:

                      I love these statements ;)

                      "QRadar that is low memory, low EPS"

                      But then

                      Minimum System Requirements:
                      
                          8 GB RAM (10 GB is recommended)
                          250 GB free disk space
                          2 CPU cores (6 cores is recommended)
                      

                      Thought I might throw this up on my nas.. Not with those requirements..

                      If you don't have a power server then you could use AWS or Azure to install your Qradar and send your pfsense log there. ;)

                      P 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • P
                        pacmac @AKEGEC
                        last edited by

                        @AKEGEC do you have a content extension that works with 7.3.3 CE version? I have installed the Netgate pfSense DSM but I am experiencing problems while installing Polo's pfSense content extension.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • First post
                          Last post
                        Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.