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    • johnpozJ Offline
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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      Maybe he is blocking the captcha they would present him in some browser tool?

      But what he is saying is happening has nothing to do with pfsense.

      When you go to google.com and search sonething - its inside a tunnel.. You do not get redirected to some other url/IP for the answer to your query.

      sniff it - what do you see.. You going to ipX.. and then traffic flow..

      How would pfsense just kill off the search results inside this https tunnel? Sniff show if connection is being reset? Having connectivity issues - lots of retrans? But pfsense isn't going to go inside this https tunnel and say oh your searching - kill this connection..

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      • stephenw10S Offline
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        The content of the google search results page does not come only from www.google.com or from one IP. I could certainly imagine it blocking partially.
        I would expect the page to fail to load correctly before the search results also. But I could imagine it failing like this with the right sub domain blocked. I've never tried. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

          The content of the google search results page does not come only from www.google.com or from one IP. I could certainly imagine it blocking partially.
          I would expect the page to fail to load correctly before the search results also. But I could imagine it failing like this with the right sub domain blocked. I've never tried. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          I have no clue since its very odd.

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          • johnpozJ Offline
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
            last edited by johnpoz

            Fire up web developer in firefox.. What is not loading exactly..

            I agree stuff from your results could be hosted elsewhere - images and stuff.

            But the overall results are returned via the same tunnel you opened to go to www.google.com

            Lets see this when you go to google and then search..

            stuffblocked.png

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            • stephenw10S Offline
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Yup, exactly. Do that ^.
              It should be pretty obvious what's failing load.

              Steve

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              • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10

                I have made a video....

                Here you go (link)

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  So your not going to google at all..

                  That is not what you stated..

                  Can you even resolve www.google.com

                  I can visit google.com but search doesnt work.

                  No your not visiting google.com at all..

                  Try and ping www.google.com, do you even get an IP back?

                  $ ping www.google.com                                                
                                                                                       
                  Pinging www.google.com [216.58.192.164] with 32 bytes of data:       
                  Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=117                 
                  Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=117                
                                                                                       
                  

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                  • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                    Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                    So your not going to google at all..

                    That is not what you stated..

                    Can you even resolve www.google.com

                    I can visit google.com but search doesnt work.

                    No your not visiting google.com at all..

                    Try and ping www.google.com, do you even get an IP back?

                    $ ping www.google.com                                                
                                                                                         
                    Pinging www.google.com [216.58.192.164] with 32 bytes of data:       
                    Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=117                 
                    Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=117                
                                                                                         
                    

                    I am and its resolvable

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                    • johnpozJ Offline
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
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                      google.com is not www.google.com

                      Pinging google.com [216.58.192.206] with 32 bytes of data:
                      Reply from 216.58.192.206: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=116
                      
                      Pinging www.google.com [172.217.164.100] with 32 bytes of data:
                      Reply from 172.217.164.100: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=111
                      

                      Your get in your "video" is for www.google.com

                      google.png

                      When fails...

                      You never WENT to www.google.com - you did a search in firefox browser... You didn't load www.google.com in your browser like I show in my example.

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                        Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                        google.com is not www.google.com

                        Pinging google.com [216.58.192.206] with 32 bytes of data:
                        Reply from 216.58.192.206: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=116
                        
                        Pinging www.google.com [172.217.164.100] with 32 bytes of data:
                        Reply from 172.217.164.100: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=111
                        

                        Your get in your "video" is for www.google.com

                        google.png

                        When fails...

                        You never WENT to www.google.com - you did a search in firefox browser... You didn't load www.google.com in your browser like I show in my example.

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                        The search from FF times out when searching www.google.com. When I visit www.google.com from the browser it works fine.

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                          Cool_Corona @Cool_Corona
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                          This is what I get when searching from FF on a startpage....

                          This is what I get if I type www.google.com directly

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            Where is that working - I see a get.. I don't see the OK (200) response. Where is the rest of what that would show if you actually went there and pulled data.. Again see my example.

                            I want nothing more than to help you figure out what the problem is.. But I fail to understand why this has to be like pulling teeth with a pair of chopsticks..

                            Here is a simple test.. do a fetch www.google.com from pfsense. Look what you get..

                            fetch.png

                            Then do the same test from something behind pfsense.. If pfsense works but your machine is not..

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                              Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                              Where is that working - I see a get.. I don't see the OK (200) response. Where is the rest of what that would show if you actually went there and pulled data.. Again see my example.

                              I want nothing more than to help you figure out what the problem is.. But I fail to understand why this has to be like pulling teeth with a pair of chopsticks..

                              Here is a simple test.. do a fetch www.google.com from pfsense. Look what you get..

                              fetch.png

                              I know but I dont get anymore than that as a reply and then it times out.

                              Looking a local google domains, its not a problem

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                              • stephenw10S Offline
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                If you get no response from www.google.com then how does it work when you visit the page?

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                                • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                                  Cool_Corona @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10

                                  I get this from pfsense

                                  fetch: https://www.google.com: No route to host

                                  I cant visit the page. I get no reply.

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                                  Everything else than .com works flawlessly

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                                  • stephenw10S Offline
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by stephenw10

                                    Ah, so a routing problem.

                                    Run host www.google.com and show us your routing table.

                                    Though you see to be able to ping it..... but maybe not from pfSense itself.

                                    Steve

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                                      Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10

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                                      • stephenw10S Offline
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        ...and your routing table?

                                        This could be an IPV6 issue....

                                        Steve

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                                        • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                                          Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 Some IP info in there that I dont want on the forum...

                                          Running netstat -r

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                                          • stephenw10S Offline
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Can you ping6 to (www.)google.com?

                                            Do either of those other google domains return v6 IPs?

                                            You'll have to check your own routing tables then. Does it all look correct?

                                            Steve

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