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    • stephenw10S Offline
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      The content of the google search results page does not come only from www.google.com or from one IP. I could certainly imagine it blocking partially.
      I would expect the page to fail to load correctly before the search results also. But I could imagine it failing like this with the right sub domain blocked. I've never tried. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

        The content of the google search results page does not come only from www.google.com or from one IP. I could certainly imagine it blocking partially.
        I would expect the page to fail to load correctly before the search results also. But I could imagine it failing like this with the right sub domain blocked. I've never tried. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        I have no clue since its very odd.

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        • johnpozJ Offline
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
          last edited by johnpoz

          Fire up web developer in firefox.. What is not loading exactly..

          I agree stuff from your results could be hosted elsewhere - images and stuff.

          But the overall results are returned via the same tunnel you opened to go to www.google.com

          Lets see this when you go to google and then search..

          stuffblocked.png

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          • stephenw10S Offline
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Yup, exactly. Do that ^.
            It should be pretty obvious what's failing load.

            Steve

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            • Cool_CoronaC Offline
              Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10

              I have made a video....

              Here you go (link)

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
                last edited by johnpoz

                So your not going to google at all..

                That is not what you stated..

                Can you even resolve www.google.com

                I can visit google.com but search doesnt work.

                No your not visiting google.com at all..

                Try and ping www.google.com, do you even get an IP back?

                $ ping www.google.com                                                
                                                                                     
                Pinging www.google.com [216.58.192.164] with 32 bytes of data:       
                Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=117                 
                Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=117                
                                                                                     
                

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                • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                  Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                  So your not going to google at all..

                  That is not what you stated..

                  Can you even resolve www.google.com

                  I can visit google.com but search doesnt work.

                  No your not visiting google.com at all..

                  Try and ping www.google.com, do you even get an IP back?

                  $ ping www.google.com                                                
                                                                                       
                  Pinging www.google.com [216.58.192.164] with 32 bytes of data:       
                  Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=117                 
                  Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=117                
                                                                                       
                  

                  I am and its resolvable

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                  • johnpozJ Offline
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
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                    google.com is not www.google.com

                    Pinging google.com [216.58.192.206] with 32 bytes of data:
                    Reply from 216.58.192.206: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=116
                    
                    Pinging www.google.com [172.217.164.100] with 32 bytes of data:
                    Reply from 172.217.164.100: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=111
                    

                    Your get in your "video" is for www.google.com

                    google.png

                    When fails...

                    You never WENT to www.google.com - you did a search in firefox browser... You didn't load www.google.com in your browser like I show in my example.

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                      Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                      google.com is not www.google.com

                      Pinging google.com [216.58.192.206] with 32 bytes of data:
                      Reply from 216.58.192.206: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=116
                      
                      Pinging www.google.com [172.217.164.100] with 32 bytes of data:
                      Reply from 172.217.164.100: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=111
                      

                      Your get in your "video" is for www.google.com

                      google.png

                      When fails...

                      You never WENT to www.google.com - you did a search in firefox browser... You didn't load www.google.com in your browser like I show in my example.

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                      The search from FF times out when searching www.google.com. When I visit www.google.com from the browser it works fine.

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                      • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                        Cool_Corona @Cool_Corona
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                        This is what I get when searching from FF on a startpage....

                        This is what I get if I type www.google.com directly

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          Where is that working - I see a get.. I don't see the OK (200) response. Where is the rest of what that would show if you actually went there and pulled data.. Again see my example.

                          I want nothing more than to help you figure out what the problem is.. But I fail to understand why this has to be like pulling teeth with a pair of chopsticks..

                          Here is a simple test.. do a fetch www.google.com from pfsense. Look what you get..

                          fetch.png

                          Then do the same test from something behind pfsense.. If pfsense works but your machine is not..

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                            Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                            Where is that working - I see a get.. I don't see the OK (200) response. Where is the rest of what that would show if you actually went there and pulled data.. Again see my example.

                            I want nothing more than to help you figure out what the problem is.. But I fail to understand why this has to be like pulling teeth with a pair of chopsticks..

                            Here is a simple test.. do a fetch www.google.com from pfsense. Look what you get..

                            fetch.png

                            I know but I dont get anymore than that as a reply and then it times out.

                            Looking a local google domains, its not a problem

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                            • stephenw10S Offline
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              If you get no response from www.google.com then how does it work when you visit the page?

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                              • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                                Cool_Corona @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10

                                I get this from pfsense

                                fetch: https://www.google.com: No route to host

                                I cant visit the page. I get no reply.

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                                Everything else than .com works flawlessly

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                                • stephenw10S Offline
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by stephenw10

                                  Ah, so a routing problem.

                                  Run host www.google.com and show us your routing table.

                                  Though you see to be able to ping it..... but maybe not from pfSense itself.

                                  Steve

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                                    Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10

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                                    • stephenw10S Offline
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      ...and your routing table?

                                      This could be an IPV6 issue....

                                      Steve

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                                      • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                                        Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 Some IP info in there that I dont want on the forum...

                                        Running netstat -r

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                                        • stephenw10S Offline
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Can you ping6 to (www.)google.com?

                                          Do either of those other google domains return v6 IPs?

                                          You'll have to check your own routing tables then. Does it all look correct?

                                          Steve

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                                            Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10

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