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    • Cool_CoronaC Offline
      Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

      The content of the google search results page does not come only from www.google.com or from one IP. I could certainly imagine it blocking partially.
      I would expect the page to fail to load correctly before the search results also. But I could imagine it failing like this with the right sub domain blocked. I've never tried. 😉

      I have no clue since its very odd.

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      • johnpozJ Offline
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
        last edited by johnpoz

        Fire up web developer in firefox.. What is not loading exactly..

        I agree stuff from your results could be hosted elsewhere - images and stuff.

        But the overall results are returned via the same tunnel you opened to go to www.google.com

        Lets see this when you go to google and then search..

        stuffblocked.png

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        • stephenw10S Offline
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Yup, exactly. Do that ^.
          It should be pretty obvious what's failing load.

          Steve

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          • Cool_CoronaC Offline
            Cool_Corona @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10

            I have made a video....

            Here you go (link)

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            • johnpozJ Offline
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
              last edited by johnpoz

              So your not going to google at all..

              That is not what you stated..

              Can you even resolve www.google.com

              I can visit google.com but search doesnt work.

              No your not visiting google.com at all..

              Try and ping www.google.com, do you even get an IP back?

              $ ping www.google.com                                                
                                                                                   
              Pinging www.google.com [216.58.192.164] with 32 bytes of data:       
              Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=117                 
              Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=117                
                                                                                   
              

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              • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                So your not going to google at all..

                That is not what you stated..

                Can you even resolve www.google.com

                I can visit google.com but search doesnt work.

                No your not visiting google.com at all..

                Try and ping www.google.com, do you even get an IP back?

                $ ping www.google.com                                                
                                                                                     
                Pinging www.google.com [216.58.192.164] with 32 bytes of data:       
                Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=117                 
                Reply from 216.58.192.164: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=117                
                                                                                     
                

                I am and its resolvable

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                • johnpozJ Offline
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
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                  google.com is not www.google.com

                  Pinging google.com [216.58.192.206] with 32 bytes of data:
                  Reply from 216.58.192.206: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=116
                  
                  Pinging www.google.com [172.217.164.100] with 32 bytes of data:
                  Reply from 172.217.164.100: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=111
                  

                  Your get in your "video" is for www.google.com

                  google.png

                  When fails...

                  You never WENT to www.google.com - you did a search in firefox browser... You didn't load www.google.com in your browser like I show in my example.

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                  • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                    Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                    google.com is not www.google.com

                    Pinging google.com [216.58.192.206] with 32 bytes of data:
                    Reply from 216.58.192.206: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=116
                    
                    Pinging www.google.com [172.217.164.100] with 32 bytes of data:
                    Reply from 172.217.164.100: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=111
                    

                    Your get in your "video" is for www.google.com

                    google.png

                    When fails...

                    You never WENT to www.google.com - you did a search in firefox browser... You didn't load www.google.com in your browser like I show in my example.

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                    The search from FF times out when searching www.google.com. When I visit www.google.com from the browser it works fine.

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                    • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                      Cool_Corona @Cool_Corona
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                      This is what I get when searching from FF on a startpage....

                      This is what I get if I type www.google.com directly

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                      • johnpozJ Offline
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        Where is that working - I see a get.. I don't see the OK (200) response. Where is the rest of what that would show if you actually went there and pulled data.. Again see my example.

                        I want nothing more than to help you figure out what the problem is.. But I fail to understand why this has to be like pulling teeth with a pair of chopsticks..

                        Here is a simple test.. do a fetch www.google.com from pfsense. Look what you get..

                        fetch.png

                        Then do the same test from something behind pfsense.. If pfsense works but your machine is not..

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                        • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                          Cool_Corona @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz said in Google.com blocked but local google domains are not....:

                          Where is that working - I see a get.. I don't see the OK (200) response. Where is the rest of what that would show if you actually went there and pulled data.. Again see my example.

                          I want nothing more than to help you figure out what the problem is.. But I fail to understand why this has to be like pulling teeth with a pair of chopsticks..

                          Here is a simple test.. do a fetch www.google.com from pfsense. Look what you get..

                          fetch.png

                          I know but I dont get anymore than that as a reply and then it times out.

                          Looking a local google domains, its not a problem

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                          • stephenw10S Offline
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            If you get no response from www.google.com then how does it work when you visit the page?

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                            • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                              Cool_Corona @stephenw10
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10

                              I get this from pfsense

                              fetch: https://www.google.com: No route to host

                              I cant visit the page. I get no reply.

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                              Everything else than .com works flawlessly

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                              • stephenw10S Offline
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by stephenw10

                                Ah, so a routing problem.

                                Run host www.google.com and show us your routing table.

                                Though you see to be able to ping it..... but maybe not from pfSense itself.

                                Steve

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                                  Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10

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                                  • stephenw10S Offline
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    ...and your routing table?

                                    This could be an IPV6 issue....

                                    Steve

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                                    • Cool_CoronaC Offline
                                      Cool_Corona @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 Some IP info in there that I dont want on the forum...

                                      Running netstat -r

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                                      • stephenw10S Offline
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Can you ping6 to (www.)google.com?

                                        Do either of those other google domains return v6 IPs?

                                        You'll have to check your own routing tables then. Does it all look correct?

                                        Steve

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                                          Cool_Corona @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10

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                                          • johnpozJ Offline
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cool_Corona
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            That would never work.. You don't have a global address it seems, that source is link-local

                                            But not sure how you could not have a route, you have to have a default route.

                                            Do a traceroute to the IPv4 that comes back for www.google.com

                                            But as we have now seen, you are not able to go to www.google.com at all - not that you can go there but searches are not working ;)

                                            Something seems really odd that you can ping, but fetch says no route. Can you ping from pfsense? Or that ping was from your client.

                                            Do you have any vpn setup on pfsense, where your doing policy routing for your clients?

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