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      ptt Rebel Alliance @bldnightowl
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      How do I downgrade back to 2.4.5p1?

      Reinstall & restore Config Backup

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        ffuentes @mcury
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        @mcury said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

        @ffuentes said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

        @mcury I just uninstalled it. Let see how far the rabbit holes go. :/

        Let's hope that we all here have the same problem, one fix is faster than two or more :)

        Completely agree. I am trying to avoid going back to the previous version to try and help narrow this down.
        But is really causing a lot of pain as it seems to be very consistent. (That's good news in a technical way)

        I have a console up and running via USB to see if I can catch anything, but is a HARD lockup. You can't get any output at all.

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          mcury @ffuentes
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          @ffuentes said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

          @mcury said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

          @ffuentes said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

          @mcury I just uninstalled it. Let see how far the rabbit holes go. :/

          Let's hope that we all here have the same problem, one fix is faster than two or more :)

          Completely agree. I am trying to avoid going back to the previous version to try and help narrow this down.
          But is really causing a lot of pain as it seems to be very consistent. (That's good news in a technical way)

          I have a console up and running via USB to see if I can catch anything, but is a HARD lockup. You can't get any output at all.

          Hm, the console also stops? You can't reboot it through the console?
          Did you upgrade from 2.4.5p1 or performed a clean 21.02 install?

          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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            ffuentes @mcury
            last edited by ffuentes

            @mcury I did an upgrade. 2.4.5p1 -> 21.02.
            One hour later, instant lockup, and happily ever since (not... but you get the idea 😞 )

            Worth mentioning that after hours of troubleshooting I did do a factory default, and reconfigure everything. Still the same behavir.

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              Bulfinch @ffuentes
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              @ffuentes I've been watching this thread all day. It seems the focus is turning to pfblockerNG, yet I have uninstalled all my packages. Removing PfblockerNG-devel did lengthen the time between lockups, it did not eliminate the problem.

              edit: I am rebooting via USB cable->putty->console

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                ffuentes @Bulfinch
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                @bulfinch Thanks for this update.

                I suspect not a pfblocker issue, but something a bit deeper.

                When we get lockups like this, sometimes it hints a kernel issue.
                Maybe a wild process, but even then you get a ping response when the OS is running low on resources.

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                  mcury @ffuentes
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                  @ffuentes @Bulfinch I tried to upgrade from 2.4.5p1, got a lot of errors, so decided to perform a clean install and configure everything from scratch..
                  I suggest you guys do the same, I lost a few hours yesterday reinstalling everything.. but I'm not getting this 'lockups'.
                  The only thing I restored from my 2.4.5p1 backup was the aliases..

                  I saved a screenshot from my update from 2.4.5p1 to 21.02 (this screen doesn't show all the errors, there were plenty more..

                  de2b0859-a55c-4410-b4f6-38f4ab505acd-image.png

                  dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                    bldnightowl @mcury
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                    @mcury For me, the console has never frozen. And I can still access the WAN from the console (pings, etc.) -- it's the LAN and the DNS Resolver that go down.

                    I have fully removed pfBlockerNG and will give this one more shot before throwing in the towel. But if the root cause really is pfBlockerNG somehow, I hope that gets resolved very quickly -- it's very important to have that.

                    How can I downgrade though to 2.4.5p1 though if I can't reach the internet because my pfSense is down? I did backup the configuration before I upgraded to 21.02, but that backup doesn't include the full pfSense software does it?

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                      Bulfinch @mcury
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                      @mcury said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                      , so decided to perform a clean install and configure

                      I may need to move in this direction. The family is rising up like the French resistance. I fear for my head.

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                        ffuentes @mcury
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                        @mcury do you know how many hours I have to invest in a reconfigure? 🤣
                        I am not sure I want to do that...

                        Its going to be painful. very painful.

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                          mcury @Bulfinch
                          last edited by mcury

                          @bulfinch said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                          @mcury said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                          , so decided to perform a clean install and configure

                          I may need to move in this direction. The family is rising up like the French resistance. I fear for my head.

                          kkkkkk, be careful, nowadays, a family without internet can be real dangerous :)
                          I'm in the same boat, this SG-3100 is a home device, my family went berzerk mode.. You should do it drinking a beer 🍺

                          @ffuentes said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                          @mcury do you know how many hours I have to invest in a reconfigure?
                          I am not sure I want to do that...
                          Its going to be painful. very painful.

                          I took some minutes thinking about that, how bad was going to be, but now I'm feeling better that I did it..

                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                            ffuentes @mcury
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                            @mcury I am curious, how do you do a fresh install with an SG-3100

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                              mcury @ffuentes
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                              @ffuentes Open a TAC ticket with the support, go.netgate.com is the link to do it, click in support and create a ticket asking for the 21.02 version, they will provide a link to download.

                              You will need a pendrive, If you are in Windows, just download 7zip to extract the file, and Balena Etcher to burn that image to the pendrive.

                              Reinstall instructions:
                              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/sg-3100/reinstall-pfsense.html

                              dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                ffuentes @mcury
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                                @mcury u know... after some serious thoughts. I think is time for me to move on and find a new solution. Thanks for your help.

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                                  2fst4u
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                                  I'm having this same issue here too. It actually took a few hard resets to actually get any response from my sg-3100.

                                  My device seems to be using a lot of CPU on "/use/local/sbin/check_reload_status" which after a bit of google-ing seems to be a symptom of something else not working properly.

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                                    mcury @ffuentes
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                                    @ffuentes said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                                    @mcury u know... after some serious thoughts. I think is time for me to move on and find a new solution. Thanks for your help.

                                    You are welcome

                                    dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                      softcoder
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                                      Same issue here with my SG-3100, system stops responding to GUI, cannot ping the router and must unplug the router 5 times today after upgrading to v21

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                                        kphillips Administrator Netgate
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                                        When your device "locks up", can someone go into the serial console, choose option 8 for the shell, and run the following?

                                        php /usr/local/www/status.php

                                        then run

                                        cp /tmp/status_output.tgz /root/

                                        After this, reboot your firewall, go into the webConfigurator --> Diagnostics --> Command Prompt and paste in /root/status_output.tgz into the "Download File" prompt and download the file from the firewall.

                                        If you can then open a ticket with our support providing this file, it will hopefully help us figure out what's going on here.

                                        Thank you everyone for your patience.

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                                          ffuentes @kphillips
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                                          @kphillips @mcury I wanted to come back after a few hours... I was able to finally warm-up, take a nice warm shower, and have a hot meal. Things down in the south (Houston, TX) are not good with this winter storm.

                                          I have not had a hard lockup after uninstalling pfblockerng (Several hours now)

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                                            bldnightowl @ffuentes
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                                            @ffuentes Same here.

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