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WAN Interface IP address - noob config question

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    JKnott @zzkazu
    last edited by Aug 22, 2019, 10:43 AM

    @zzkazu said in WAN Interface IP address - noob config question:

    My setup is

    Why do you have a Netgear router and pfSense? That's 2 routers and double NAT.

    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
    UniFi AC-Lite access point

    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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      bmeeks
      last edited by Aug 22, 2019, 1:21 PM

      The WAN and LAN are within the same subnet according to the screen shot in the last post by the OP. You can't have WAN and LAN in the same subnet. You are showing both of them in the 192.168.5.0 network. The WAN is 192.168.5.109 and the LAN is 192.168.5.110. That can't work!

      Draw a simple diagram of how you have things connected and post back.

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        NogBadTheBad @JKnott
        last edited by NogBadTheBad Aug 23, 2019, 8:00 AM Aug 22, 2019, 3:14 PM

        @JKnott said in WAN Interface IP address - noob config question:

        @zzkazu said in WAN Interface IP address - noob config question:

        My setup is

        Why do you have a Netgear router and pfSense? That's 2 routers and double NAT.

        This ^^

        Set the pfSense WAN interface to PPPOE and remove the Netgear.

        Andy

        1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by Aug 22, 2019, 3:23 PM

          You can double nat if you need too - but you can not have the same network on pfsense wan as you do its lan and expect it to route correctly.

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            zzkazu
            last edited by zzkazu Aug 23, 2019, 6:52 AM Aug 23, 2019, 12:05 AM

            Thanks for the advice. I have tried a PPPoE configuration.

            DSL Modem "Bridged" to
            APU2 WAN interface
            APU2 LAN interface to
            L-SG108PE switch

            WAN interface set to PPPoE
            LAN Static IP

            On LAN side still cant ping out publicly.

            DCHP service running and allocating leases
            No FW rules running on WAN

            Pfsense PPPoE.JPG

            Firewall rules.JPG

            Ping Interface Test.JPG

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              NogBadTheBad
              last edited by Aug 23, 2019, 7:59 AM

              Try killing the firewall states.

              Andy

              1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by Aug 23, 2019, 8:41 AM

                And what are you outbound nat rules?

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                  zzkazu
                  last edited by Aug 23, 2019, 10:24 AM

                  Automatic outbound NAT rule generation.

                  Is that sufficient?

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz Aug 23, 2019, 10:26 AM Aug 23, 2019, 10:24 AM

                    let see it please
                    If you can ping from your public wan, but not from your lan - points to outbound nat not being correct.

                    I would sniff on your wan while your doing your ping from lan test.. Do you see the ping go out with your actual wan IP?

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by stephenw10 Aug 23, 2019, 2:40 PM Aug 23, 2019, 2:39 PM

                      Check the state table size on the dashboard also. Something breaking the ruleset can present like this but you would see 0 open states in that case. You have some rules showing open states so it's probably not that. Worth checking though.

                      Check you have a default route in Diag > Routes.

                      Steve

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                        zzkazu
                        last edited by zzkazu Aug 24, 2019, 1:28 AM Aug 24, 2019, 12:16 AM

                        Thanks for the help here, learning lots.

                        Still can ping and resolve via WAN but not LAN

                        Only taking a guess but LAN active states seem closed, could that be the issue? I have reset states a couple of times.

                        using Packet capture (WAN side) cant see any private IP addresses...

                        thanks

                        Outbound NAT

                        NAT outbound.JPG

                        Diag Routes.JPG

                        Active States.JPG

                        Packet Capture.JPG

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by johnpoz Aug 24, 2019, 7:00 AM Aug 24, 2019, 6:59 AM

                          Where is your default route?

                          default.png

                          That looks like your wan pinging your gateway.. But I see no default route in your routing table.. So if your client pings 8.8.8.8 why would it get routed out your internet?

                          Lets see your gateways

                          gateways.png

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                            zzkazu
                            last edited by zzkazu Aug 24, 2019, 8:50 AM Aug 24, 2019, 8:45 AM

                            Default gateway IPv4 was set to automatic. Setting it to WAN_PPPOE seems to have allowed me to ping public via LAN now..

                            Seems a bit strange noting I have only one Gateway PPPoE.. ... cheers saved further headaches for me

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by Aug 24, 2019, 9:37 AM

                              I have seen a bit of strangeness with the automatic gateway selection.. Maybe your pppoe connection is taking awhile to come up.. Not sure.. I don't use those types of connection, and never a lot of experience even with them with pfsense..

                              We can see if anyone else with more info on the details of how the automatic selection is suppose to work, and how pppoe might come into play with that, etc.

                              Glad we finally got it sorted! ;)

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Aug 24, 2019, 1:15 PM

                                Yeah, I would recommend always setting the gateway to something specific there.

                                Steve

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