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      Stef93 @Cabledude
      last edited by Stef93

      @Cabledude
      I'm not @JonathanLee
      But I have and actively use Netgate 6100 Base (by the way, I bought an intel optane 64gb, it’s already waiting for me, I need to install it)
      I can confirm that it takes a long time to load)
      upd. there are a lot of widgets, a lot of things are spinning

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        Cabledude @Stef93
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        Thank you @Stef93. Are you saying your SG-6100 takes 10 seconds to load the dash?

        Pete
        Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
        Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
        Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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          Stef93 @Cabledude
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          @Cabledude
          4-6s

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            Cabledude @Stef93
            last edited by Cabledude

            @Stef93 thank you. Then my 11 seconds is likely to be considered normal for the much lesser specc'ed CPU of the SG-2100.

            Still curious that your 6100 takes 4-6 seconds where my friend's 4100 takes only 2 seconds. His widget list is:

            • System Information, pfBlockerNG, Gateways, Interfaces, Services Status and Traffic Graphs

            Good chance your 6100 has more widgets or some other kind that waits for info to load ("spinning")

            Pete
            Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
            Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
            Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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              Stef93 @Cabledude
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              @Cabledude
              System Information, pfBlockerNG, Gateways, Interfaces, Services Status, Traffic Graphs x5
              +
              OpenVPN, Dynamic DNS Status, Ipsec, Disks

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                There is a specific fix coming for the 6100/8200 that speeds up the dashboard loading if you have the interfaces widget there and don't have any SFP modules loaded.
                It's in 23.09: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13911

                Steve

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                  RobbieTT @Cabledude
                  last edited by RobbieTT

                  @Cabledude

                  My 6100 with Optane takes 1.91 seconds to load the dashboard over wifi.

                  My Xeon-D, also with Optane, takes 1.71 seconds over wifi:

                   2023-11-02 at 12.49.54.png

                  I have a pretty busy dashboard and with live graphing, so it never really stops. Of course, with caching enabled and on a wired connection it will be quicker. My LAN uses SFP+ in both cases above.

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                    Cabledude @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 Hi Steve, can you confirm SG-2100 dash load time being as high as mine given these widgets:
                    System Information: 3,5 seconds
                    Disks: + 1.5 seconds
                    pfBlockerNG: + 0.75 seconds
                    Gateways: + 0.3 seconds
                    Interfaces: + 1.5 seconds
                    Services Status: + 2 seconds
                    ZFS: + 1 second
                    Traffic Graphs: +0.5 seconds

                    Pete
                    Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                    Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                    Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                      Cabledude @RobbieTT
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                      Thanks @RobbieTT . I don't recognize your screen shot as resembling a pfSense dashboard though.

                      Pete
                      Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                      Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                      Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        If the box itself is busy then it can take a while to open the dash on the 2100. That does seem quite extreme though.

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                          RobbieTT @Cabledude
                          last edited by RobbieTT

                          @Cabledude said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                          Thanks @RobbieTT . I don't recognize your screen shot as resembling a pfSense dashboard though.

                          No, it's a timeline graph showing how long the page takes to load. The top of my dashboard looks like this:

                           2023-11-02 at 13.05.22.png

                          ☕️

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                            Cabledude @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                            If the box itself is busy then it can take a while to open the dash on the 2100. That does seem quite extreme though.

                            No the unit is close to idle while doing these measurements.

                            When I simultaneously do an ISP speed test (400 down, 50 up) the dashboard will take 16 seconds to load.

                            Pete
                            Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                            Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                            Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                              JonathanLee @Cabledude
                              last edited by JonathanLee

                              @Cabledude to log in and get to a dashboard it takes mine 8-9 seconds depending on how much it is being used. However, with the ath0 driver built for the expansion WiFi card enabled it's a lot faster. With that being said I assume the AP also factors into this. I am using a 5ghz Wi-Fi.

                              Screenshot 2023-11-02 073934.png

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                              I have a Wi-Fi card inside the 2100

                              I also use a external AP most of the time because I can't access my printer or NAS with that card enabled. Again it's much more responsive when I am accessing it over the Wi-Fi on PfSense when juxtaposed to the external AP.

                              Try to disable ClamAV Tac support recommended it for me as it uses a lot of memory.

                              Make sure to upvote

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                                Cabledude @JonathanLee
                                last edited by Cabledude

                                Thank you @JonathanLee. 8-9 seconds is in the same ballpark as 10-11. maybe I have more widgets than you, can't really tell from your screen shots, though the paintings are exceptionally spectacular.

                                I don't have a WiFi module inside the SG-2100, all cabled connections, which can't be slower than WiFi, probably faster. But I get the same dash loading times on my iPhone (connected to my LAN) so I suppose WiFi or cabled doesn't make a difference.

                                Could you list the widgets that you use?

                                Pete
                                Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                                Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                                Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                                  Stef93 @JonathanLee
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                                  @JonathanLee
                                  Can you please tell me the model or better photo of the wifi module?

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Compex WLE200NX. That's the only card I'm aware of that works in the 2100.

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                                      JonathanLee @Stef93
                                      last edited by JonathanLee

                                      @Stef93 like @stephenw10 said, it is the Compex card

                                      Make sure to upvote

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                                        JonathanLee @Cabledude
                                        last edited by

                                        @Cabledude for widgets I use . . .

                                        2 ART
                                        1 NTP
                                        1 System information
                                        1 Services Status
                                        1 Installed Packages
                                        1 Gateways

                                        Make sure to upvote

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                                          Cabledude @JonathanLee
                                          last edited by

                                          @JonathanLee said in 4100/6100 Base or Max:

                                          @Cabledude for widgets I use . . .

                                          2 ART
                                          1 NTP
                                          1 System information
                                          1 Services Status
                                          1 Installed Packages
                                          1 Gateways

                                          So with these 5 widgets you use (I didn’t select the two ART ones) I get 7 seconds. So I suppose our units perform similarly.

                                          Pete
                                          Home: SG-2100 + UniFi + Synology. SG-1100 retired
                                          Parents: SG-1100 + UniFi + Synology
                                          Testing: SG-1100 w/ 120GB SSD via ext USB (eMMC dead). Works great

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                                            Stef93 @stephenw10
                                            last edited by Stef93

                                            @stephenw10
                                            is this adapter suitable for netgate 6100?
                                            I don’t know if it’s a different version or model, but I found Compex WLE200NX 7A

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