seems to be all working.
think i got confused on what the "OpenVPN clients" are.
kept seeing the services being stopped, so thought it was a error.
am i correct in saying its...
for either connecting to another vpn server elsewhere (aka p2p router connection)
and generally for exporting the config files for win/linux clients, instead of doing it manually.
the client isntance doesnt actually get used for imcoming openvpn conenctions from say a windows client