the other thing i cant decide about, is why if i boot the pfsense cold with no cables, and then plug it in does it work (obivously the openNTP hang is there, because there is no internet).
why does it work after a complete boot and cable change, whereas if i leave it all plugged in and boot it that way, it refuses to find the internet and route traffic?
unfortunately ive not tried it with 1.2.3, as i need the features in 2.0 in order to accomplish multiple cisco vpn clients to the same VPN concentrator (a customer's requirement… and this part works fine in 2.0-RC3).