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Not your average "internet speed" problem...

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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Apr 12, 2022, 8:05 PM

    Except it did the same thing with a Netgear switch in there instead and with OpenWRT on the AP we can't even blame them there. πŸ˜‰

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      Panja @stephenw10
      last edited by Apr 12, 2022, 8:07 PM

      @stephenw10

      Can you elaborate?
      I don’t quite understand what you mean. Sorry!

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by Apr 12, 2022, 8:11 PM

        Sorry I was replying to @JKnott but my reply ended up out of order.

        You might need a packet capture to see what's happening there. Seem like something low level, and IP/MAC conflict maybe.

        No errors logged anywhere? On any of those devices?

        Steve

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          Panja @stephenw10
          last edited by Apr 12, 2022, 8:36 PM

          @stephenw10

          Ahhhh ok. I see now. πŸ˜‚

          I will try to do some more (error) testing tomorrow and also look if I can find anything in the logs.

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            A Former User
            last edited by Apr 13, 2022, 5:30 AM

            @Panja

            Is the OpenWRT in router mode or did you set it up in AP
            mode?

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              Panja @A Former User
              last edited by Apr 13, 2022, 6:14 AM

              @dobby_

              AP mode.
              Also disabled Firewall, DNS and DHCP on the OpenWRT device.

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                Panja
                last edited by Apr 13, 2022, 7:53 AM

                What I tested today:

                • Port 4 from Archer C7 directly into my laptop: full speeds
                • Cable from pfSense directly in the TP link switch and port 8 (vlan 40) directly to my laptop: full speeds
                • Port 4 from Archer C7 into new Netgear switch (factory defaults, no setup): internet speed problem
                • Port 4 from Archer C7 into new Netgear xx (factory defaults, no setup), unplug port 2 (so eliminating the TP link switch): internet speed problem
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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Apr 13, 2022, 12:03 PM

                  Mmm, that's got to be something really low level.

                  You see latency and low speeds but not packet loss?

                  I would be running packet captures to try to identify what's happening.

                  Steve

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                    Panja
                    last edited by Panja Apr 14, 2022, 1:40 PM Apr 14, 2022, 1:37 PM

                    @mcury @Dobby_ @Gertjan @stephenw10 @JKnott @SteveITS

                    And LOW LEVEL is was!
                    Finally fixed the problem...

                    I've tested my problem with 3 different laptops.
                    Surface Laptop, Surface Pro and HP Probook.
                    All do not have an internal LAN port so I used an USB3.0 to LAN adapter (MS Surface Ethernet Adapter). And the 2 Surface devices I tried also on a Microsoft Surface Dock (with ethernet port). Continues problems, either with the dongle or on the dock.
                    If it was only with the dongle I would have thought the dongle would be f*ck3d.
                    But the problem was there with the dock as well...

                    Yesterday I tried that same dongle on a PopOS (Linux) device and to my suprise I was getting full speeds. That made me think it could not be the dongle itself.
                    I took a look at the driver settings for both the dongle and dock and they both use the same chip: Realtek RTL8153.
                    Both were installed with the MS Surface drivers and are recommended/installed by MS.

                    I've downloaded the latest RTL8153 drivers from the Realtek site. Manually updated the drivers and choose a different brand ethernet adapter. Voila problem solved!!
                    Finally full speed now.

                    Many thanks for all your help guys!

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                      mcury @Panja
                      last edited by Apr 14, 2022, 1:41 PM

                      @panja Nice..
                      I tried to use one of those USB NIC once in my life.. never will again.. :)

                      dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                        Gertjan @mcury
                        last edited by Apr 14, 2022, 2:24 PM

                        @mcury
                        Yep, @Panja resumed it well enough : " the dongle would be f*ck3d. ".

                        Ethernet over USB : even if you could, you shouldn't. Added to that : Realtek hardware/drivers ...

                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          Panja @Gertjan
                          last edited by Apr 14, 2022, 2:27 PM

                          @gertjan

                          Totally agree, that's why I have a dock when working at my desk.
                          (which did have the same chipset as the dongle).
                          But when I'm on the road and I need ethernet what options do I have...

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                            Gertjan @Panja
                            last edited by Apr 14, 2022, 2:43 PM

                            @panja said in Not your average "internet speed" problem...:

                            options do I have...

                            One : you deal with what you have, and you made it work for you !!

                            To rephrase what I said above : it might work, as is was sold to you with the idea that it would work.
                            I've been using Realteks half my live and wasn't really bothered with them. I did have several NICs in advance, as they just don't 'live' very long.
                            These days, I always disable build in NIC's, and add quad Intel branded NIC in systems.

                            When I buy material, I always check what the used hardware is. The price, shape and colour details comes next.

                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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