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Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change

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    codersaur @stephenw10
    last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 10:56 AM

    @stephenw10 so there's no .tmp file.

    Backup dir looks normal (I guess) with each xml file being 9.1MB and being created at 04:48 as per schedule (the ACME service also seems to trigger a backup at 03:16 every third day).

    I've run the latest xml file through a validator and it seems fine. So I am still at a loss as to why my backup uploads to acb.netgate.com are failing...

    /root: ls -lah /cf/conf/backup/
    total 279376
    drwxr-xr-x  2 root wheel  1.5K Feb 21 04:48 .
    drwxr-xr-x  5 root wheel  1.0K Feb 21 04:48 ..
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  4.6K Feb 21 04:48 backup.cache
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461091.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461092.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461093.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461096.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461097.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461098.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461100.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461101.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461102.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461105.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461106.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461107.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461109.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461110.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461111.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461112.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461115.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461116.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461117.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 14 04:48 config-1739461118.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 15 03:16 config-1739508480.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 15 04:48 config-1739589365.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 16 04:48 config-1739594880.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 17 04:48 config-1739681280.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 18 03:16 config-1739767680.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 18 04:48 config-1739848565.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 19 04:48 config-1739854080.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 20 04:48 config-1739940480.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 21 03:16 config-1740026880.xml
    -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 21 04:48 config-1740107765.xml
    
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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 11:44 AM

      Yes, it pretty much has to be the backend rejecting it. I'll poke our guys again.

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        Gertjan @codersaur
        last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 12:45 PM

        @codersaur

        My typical config-xxx.xml files are 650 Kbytes or so for a 24.11 on a 4100.
        9+ Mbytes seems a lot to me.

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          codersaur @Gertjan
          last edited by codersaur Feb 21, 2025, 1:18 PM Feb 21, 2025, 1:15 PM

          @Gertjan The xml files seem to include the rrddata. If I make a manual backup without rrddata the size is ~380 Kb.

          There doesn't seem to be an option in the ACB config page to include/exclude rrd data like there is on the manual Diagnostics > Backup/Restore...

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            williamrolison
            last edited by williamrolison Feb 21, 2025, 2:07 PM Feb 21, 2025, 1:53 PM

            Since I can't thumb up ATM. Anyways.

            I'm having this same issue as codersaur.

            Look forward to the fix. For now disabled.

            Netgate 4200 24.11

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              codersaur @williamrolison
              last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 2:07 PM

              @williamrolison When did it start failing and can you correlate with any changes on your side? If yours also started failing around 20th Jan that might indicate a server-side change and rule out the WAN IP change a factor. Conversely, if you also had a WAN IP change that might also help track down the root cause.

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                williamrolison @codersaur
                last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 2:12 PM

                Started for me on Feb 13. Feb 11 was when IP changed.

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

                  The encrypted files uploaded to acb always exclude RRD data so that file size should be no issue. But clearly something is....

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                    codersaur @stephenw10
                    last edited by Mar 4, 2025, 11:33 AM

                    @stephenw10 is there any progress update on this issue? Thanks.

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Mar 10, 2025, 12:46 AM

                      Nothing yet. I'll see if our IT guys found anything.....

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                        codersaur @stephenw10
                        last edited by Mar 17, 2025, 6:53 PM

                        @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                        Nothing yet. I'll see if our IT guys found anything.....

                        Have they found anything? Backup is still failing every day.

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                          codersaur @stephenw10
                          last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 1:46 PM

                          @stephenw10 bump. Still failing...

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 4:12 PM

                            Sorry let me find out what we can do....

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                              codersaur @stephenw10
                              last edited by Apr 9, 2025, 9:00 AM

                              @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                              Sorry let me find out what we can do....

                              bump...

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                                codersaur @stephenw10
                                last edited by Apr 22, 2025, 3:25 PM

                                @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                                Sorry let me find out what we can do....

                                Were you able to find anything out?

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by Apr 22, 2025, 4:39 PM

                                  Nope I still have nothing. Let me push harder...

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by 22 days ago

                                    OK are you still seeing this now? There were some back end changes.

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                                      codersaur @stephenw10
                                      last edited by 22 days ago

                                      @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                                      OK are you still seeing this now? There were some back end changes.

                                      Just tried now. Still failing.

                                      2025-05-08 19:08:30.196785+01:00 /usr/local/sbin/acbupload.php: New alert found: An error occurred while uploading the encrypted pfSense configuration to https://acb.netgate.com/save (Operation timed out after 30000 milliseconds with 0 bytes received)*

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                                        williamrolison
                                        last edited by williamrolison 22 days ago 22 days ago

                                        A manual backup just worked for me now.

                                        And I see it did a few on it's own when I re-renabled, as expected.

                                        29df1869-4c9e-4056-aca6-e641f7a3aecf-image.png

                                        Test 1 is me hitting the "Backup now" button. The other 3 is it doing it's thing.

                                        Edit: Installed wireguard as well to be sure it would backup before hand, and it did :)

                                        540c87e2-194e-49b3-b2be-b0d6edbe7a40-image.png

                                        So works for me now, Thanks!

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @codersaur
                                          last edited by 22 days ago

                                          @codersaur said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                                          Just tried now. Still failing.

                                          OK, we'll keep digging then.

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