If you have the space to do it then mounting it vertically will probably cool better. However those devices were tested at full load in ambient temperatures far higher than 30C in the normal horizontal position so either should be no problem. Steve

@legoblocks CRON package: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/packages/list.html

@ryanrozich said in Can I install TNSR on Netgate 6100 (not Max) version: Thanks all, I've installed NVMe in other servers before. This isn't "other servers" so... be careful as you could really make the system unusable if you aren't careful. @ryanrozich said in Can I install TNSR on Netgate 6100 (not Max) version: its more geared to being an edge router rather Correct. Some of us here (myself and @stephenw10) can't even run it on our edge because it doesn't support our ISPs connection (PPPoE).

@Cabledude said in 23.05.1: @jimp said in 23.05.1: I wouldn't bother with the config restore, just install the packages again. The config restore is a fairly harsh way of saving a handful of clicks. It will work, but it's like swatting a fly with a cannon. Ah okay, thank you. I assumed that package configuration (settings sections) would be reset to their defaults if packages are simply uninstalled and reinstalled, but if I understand you correctly the settings will be retained? So let's say I uninstall Avahi, perform update and reinstall Avahi, will the system have remembered the Avahi settings such as which interfaces, repeat packet across subnets etc.? Upgrading a package effectively uninstalls the old package and reinstalls the new version. Same as if you did it in two steps before/after a reboot. By default package configurations are retained in the firewall config file and only the metadata about the package is altered (e.g. the info about the package files, menus, tabs, plugins). There are a small number of packages which have an option to wipe their config on reinstall but that isn't their default behavior, you have to explicitly set them to clear the config.

It's not something I've measured but, yes, I would expect a few Watts in the SSD.

@stephenw10 said in Are PCH temps around 70C to 78C normal on a Netgate 1541?: You'd have to reset the thermal sensors RRD data to start logging that if you just upgraded and are now seeing the PCH device. That did the trick. Thank you! Justin DeBusk

That was my first thought as well. When I took the fan off to move it over, I found out the second screw hole is missing. In the picture without the fan shroud, you can see one hole on the far right.... but that's it, the hole for the screw on the left side of the fan mount isn't present. I'm guessing Supermicro must have a different fan bracket that holds two fans. So, the next best thing was to add the cardboard.

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@mrsunfire: I've identified the source of this error. The original author of the section of code that performs remote notifications of newly added rules categories was apparently unaware that the PHP gettext() function has an input string limit of 4096 characters. In his defense, neither was I aware of that limit until some research clued me in I have a fix that will be coming with the next Suricata package update. I hope to have that posted in the next couple of days or so for the Netgate team to review and approve.

Here's a better patch from @jimp. This is now in new snapshots and will be in the next pfSense release. led_check.diff Steve

Hmm, definitely rebooting then. And not logging any cause. No crash log isn't a good sign. Really only a log from the serial console output might show anything there.

If you look through the threads here there are some showing modules others have tested.

@Stefanix said in 23.05@2100 on eMMC or SSD?: Can this still be an issue or will the installation routine take care of this? It can cause an issue if you end up with multiple zfs pools with the same name. However you don't need to worry about that when installing to the SSD in the 2100 because the installer erases the eMMC drive during the install. The only time you might is if you later decided to install the eMMC when the SSD was still present. But that's a far more unusual situation. Steve

Further (final?) thermal improvement: [image: 1687081354310-20230618-netgate-6100-thermals-tilted-laptop-cooler.png] The ambient temperature has increased over the period of testing, so the actual improvement is probably slightly better than shown above. I added extended feet to the front of the small laptop cooler so the front is slightly higher by 1º. With the ports on the 6100 at the front this raises the exposed part of the heatsink fins above the more enclosed (LED) end. The added airflow and removal of the air trapped behind the plastic case made quite a difference to the performance of the heatsink. Silicom should have trimmed the plastic cover on the LED-side of the heatsink in the same way as the port-equipped side. Compilation graph of the various orientations, elevations and now the tilt: [image: 1687086142373-20230618-netgate-6100-thermals-fused-graph-resized.png] Of course, in any orientation it wasn't close to bursting into flames or anything. ️

I have used both in mine with no issue. Because the system is far from you, did you make and mail the USB drives or did a local make the USB drive? Maybe the USB drive is not bootable.

@stephenw10 Thanks Steve, it seems that there is a lot to learn about ZFS before I open the feature request. Once I feel more comfortable about it, I'll confirm if this is indeed a good idea. Thanks

At one time that was possible however it cannot be done in 23.05. There was a regression in the upstream ath driver that prevented it loading on armv7 and the number of people using it didn't justify the development effort at the time. I was one of the few users running wifi cards in 3100s. I believe 2.4.4p3 was the last version that had all the required components functioning and it's hard to recommend anyone runs that now. Steve

Thanks for your help @johnpoz + @stephenw10. Netgate TAC sorted everything out very quickly.

The 'Free' space there is in the pool. It will be used as required. The pool size there is shown as 7G which is likely the formatted size from the 8G eMMC once swap and boot are removed. Check the ZFS Boot Environments. The remaining 2G is probably there as snapshots.